You can’t watch more than 10 minutes of news these days without hearing some reference to AI (our bff, artificial intelligence)— and it’s popping up everywhere from celebrities and politics to music, shopping, and healthcare. In this ep, we’re breaking down the pros and cons, ethical considerations, and future directions of AI specifically within mental healthcare and therapy— and it is a JUICY one, y’all. And of course as always, we also get into a lot more!

This episode covers:

• 00:54 - Intro: Emerson seeing Chappel Roan and Val’s Texas Trip
• 03:46 - Tea & Crumpets: The Giver of Stars by Jojo Moyes and Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story on Netflix
• 08:11 - Step Into My Office: Navigating family estrangement when wanting to stay close to all members involved
• 13:36 - The Lore: Shea Wingate’s experiences with grief and learning to befriend the “grief monster”
• 20:16 - The DSM: AI & Mental Health – Advantages, Dangers, Ethical Considerations, and Future Directions
• 46:58 - Now That’s What I Call…Ooookay
• 48:16 - Val’s Pick: “Only Hope” by Mandy Moore
• 50:34 - Emerson’s Pick: “Be Careful With Yourself” by Julia Jacklin
• 52:34 - Wait…What: WTF is a kiki?!
• 54:30 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: Cats ‘hired’ to motivate security guards in Philippines and Thailand becomes first Southeastern Asian country to legalize marriage equality!!

Resources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode:

• Book: The Giver of Stars by Jojo Moyes
• Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story on Netflix
• Shea Wingate – The Grief Girlie
• Woebot
• Wysa
• X2AI
• Headspace Care (formerly known as Ginger)
• Flamme
• 60 Minutes story
• Can AI Replace Therapists? A Psychiatrist Explains
• Fixing My Brain with Automated Therapy by Jacob Gellar
• Only Hope by Mandy Moore
• Be Careful With Yourself by Julia Jacklin
• Cats ‘hired’ to motivate security guards in Philippines
• Thailand becomes first Southeastern Asian country to legalize marriage equality!!

AI Journaling Apps:

• Rosebud
• Mindsera
• Stoic
• Untold
• Layers

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DISCLAIMER: But For Real Podcast is not a substitute for individualized mental health treatment or healthcare. This podcast is solely for entertainment and educational purposes. If you are in crisis, please utilize crisis support services, such as the Crisis Text Line (Text START to 741741 in the US) or the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: (Call 988 in the US), or visit www.findahelpline.com for international resources.