Chris and Dave trudge back into the Therapy lounge after a Bears game so ugly it should probably be classified as a crime scene. The Packers won—technically, spiritually, debatably—but that doesn’t stop the boys from unpacking every chaotic, bone-headed, infuriating moment like two men sorting recycling while blindfolded.

The episode opens with the guys trying to make sense of Jordan Love’s afternoon, where he oscillated between “competent NFL quarterback” and “guy picking plays off the stadium Wi-Fi.” They dig into the Johnson touchdown disaster—also known as the Great Slip-n-Slide of Soldier Field—and the Williams choke job that could have (should have?) ended in heartbreak if not for divine intervention or Chicago simply being Chicago.

They marvel at the defense somehow both dominating and collapsing at the same time, like a soufflé that’s tall on one side and flat on the other. They revisit Luke Musgrave’s existence, wonder aloud what “scheme” even means anymore, and question whether Matt LaFleur secretly has a pact with some midwestern forest spirit to survive close games he shouldn’t.

And of course, Chris and Dave light the ceremonial dumpster fire and dive headfirst into another round of Ha Ha Clinton-Dix Picks, where logic dies, point spreads cry, and predictions are made with all the confidence of someone picking stocks based on moon phases.

The inbox once again overflows with limericks, abuse, philosophical questions, dad jokes, and listeners who clearly need therapy more than the hosts do. Naturally, they read every single one.

It’s Packers Therapy at its finest: weary, confused, deeply sarcastic, and ultimately kind of hopeful—because somehow the Packers won… and the Bears didn’t.

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Posting its first show in 2005, Packers Therapy is the longest-running Packers podcast on the Internet. Hosts Chris and Dave began the show as a way of capturing the spirited chats the two co-workers had about the team around the office. The two have no pretense about being experts: they are just two opinionated shareholders who love the team, follow it closely, but don’t always see the Packers fortunes eye to eye.

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