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"I demand to be taken seriously. Yes, this movie is serious" - Andrew Harp

Austin and Andrew discuss their recent movie experiences, including their use of MoviePass to see multiple films. They mention the sustainability of the service and its potential impact on the movie industry. But the most valuable lesson from this podcast is that sometimes, even if a movie has mixed reviews, it's worth watching to form your own opinion. They delve into a discussion about the movie "Bo is Afraid," directed by Ari Aster and starring Joaquin Phoenix. While Speaker 2 finds the film interesting, they also note its flaws. Speaker 0, on the other hand, found parts of the movie boring. Despite their mixed feelings about "Bo is Afraid," the speakers continue to explore new movies and are excited to see what else is out there. So, grab some popcorn and tune in to this exciting podcast to learn more about the world of movies!

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For a man who eats Ramen 4 days a week, and cooks it 7, noodles are more than a food, they are a way of life.

Join us as we explore the world of ramen with professional chef and Ramen enthusiast Kurtis, owner of IJJI Noodle House in Reno, NV.

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"There is nothing more hilarious than France during World War One." - Andrew Harp

Show Notes

In this podcast episode, the hosts of "With Nothing to Say" discuss the film "Paths of Glory" directed by Stanley Kubrick. They analyze the frustrating nature of the film, the different characters and their motivations, and the well-written dialogue by Jim Thompson. They also delve into the themes and motifs present in the film, such as the futility of war and the prevalence of lawyer stories in movies of the era. The hosts praise the performances of the actors, particularly Kirk Douglas, and the overall look of the film. They conclude the episode by giving the film high marks and thanking their listeners.

Mentions

Jerry Lewis, The Nutty Professor: 00:00:23

Jim Thompson, writer of the screenplay: 00:08:18

Humphrey Cobb, author of the book: 00:08:27

Anatomy of a Murder (movie): 00:29:20

Nuremberg Trials: 00:30:21

Dostoevsky: 00:33:52

Affidavits: 00:35:45

Timestamps

The Nutty Professor [00:00:00]

The hosts discuss the upcoming film they will be watching for their podcast, "The Nutty Professor," and their thoughts on Jerry Lewis.

Paths of Glory [00:01:10]

The hosts discuss the film "Paths of Glory" directed by Stanley Kubrick, its frustrating nature, and the different characters and their motivations.

Jim Thompson [00:09:12]

The hosts briefly mention the writer of the film's screenplay, Jim Thompson, and discuss his work in crime fiction.

Opening and War Scenes [00:10:20]

The hosts discuss the opening scenes of the film "Paths of Glory" and the portrayal of war and characters.

The Attack and Frustration [00:11:15]

The hosts discuss the attack scene and the frustrating nature of the film, including the different characters and their motivations.

Writing and Kubrick's Films [00:15:23]

The hosts discuss the writing in "Paths of Glory" and compare it to other Kubrick films, including "The Shining" and "Barry Lyndon".

The Short War Scene in Paths of Glory [00:19:55]

Discussion of the short war scene in the film "Paths of Glory" and Kubrick's disinterest in violence.

The Frustrating Courtroom Scene [00:26:10]

Discussion of the courtroom scene in the film "Paths of Glory" and the futility of trying to save the three innocent men being court-martialed.

Kirk Douglas Defending the Three Men [00:27:13]

Discussion of Kirk Douglas defending the three innocent men being court-martialed and the frustration of the judges not caring about logic or reason.

Lawyer Movies of the 50s [00:29:20]

The hosts discuss the popularity of lawyer movies in the 50s, such as "Anatomy of a Murder," and the frustrating nature of the genre.

Execution of the Soldiers [00:33:52]

The hosts describe the execution scene in "Paths of Glory," where the soldiers are killed without any dramatic final moments or speeches.

Ending of the Movie [00:37:34]

The hosts discuss the final scene of "Paths of Glory," where the soldiers are forced to leave a moment of joy to return to the horrors of World War I.

The Frustrating Nature of "Paths of Glory" [00:38:23]

The hosts discuss the frustrating nature of the film "Paths of Glory" directed by Stanley Kubrick and the different characters and their motivations.

Kubrick's First Great Film [00:40:24]

The hosts discuss how "Paths of Glory" is Kubrick's first great film and how it gets the job done in a good way.

A Nuanced Anti-War Movie [00:41:23]

The hosts discuss how "Paths of Glory" is one of the more nuanced anti-war movies and how it's about people fighting amongst each other in their own groups and capacities.

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"It's one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my entire life" - Austin Lugo

Show Notes

In this podcast episode, Andrew and Austin discuss their recent movie-watching experiences, including Star Trek and their use of MoviePass. They also review the new film "Beau Is Afraid" by Ari Aster, with Austin giving a positive review of the film. 

The conversation then shifts to their disappointment with the current state of movies, with both expressing their frustration with the lack of good movies in theaters and on streaming platforms. 

They also discuss Woody Allen movies, the movie "Rumor Has It," and the TV show "Beef." The episode ends with a discussion of Seinfeld and the importance of creating original content for smaller audiences.

Things We Talked About

Armageddon: 00:17:44

Michael Clayton: 00:17:44

The Insider: 00:18:31

The Great (Hulu show): 00:22:31

Renfield: 00:21:00 and 00:24:13

John Wick 3 and 4: 00:21:17

Woody Allen movies:

  Annie Hall: 00:25:49

  Bananas: 00:25:49

  Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex: 00:25:49

  Love and Death: 00:26:11

  Stardust Memories: 00:26:52

Letterbox: 00:35:10, 00:38:38, 00:39:55, 00:41:48

"Nothing But Trouble": 00:35:10-00:38:38

"Beef" TV show: 00:39:55-00:43:23

Netflix: 00:39:55-00:43:23

Dan Akroyd: 00:37:47

Larry King: 00:37:47

Ali Wong: 00:40:47

Steven Yun: 00:40:47

Time Stamps

Transcript

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"It's the ultimate kicking the ribs. Not only are you forever in prison, but the thing that you thought you had, you no longer have." - Andrew Harp

Austin Lugo and Andrew Harp discuss the movie Escape from Alcatraz, directed by Don Siegel. They analyze its attention to detail and realism. The speakers also compare it to other prison movies and discuss the possibility of the inmates actually surviving and escaping. They end the episode by thanking the listeners and providing their social media handles, with a brief mention of the next movie to be discussed, Paths of Glory. Overall, the episode provides a thoughtful and insightful analysis of Escape from Alcatraz and its place in the genre of prison films.

Movies Mentioned:

Timestamps

Stanley Kubrick's Paths of Glory [00:00:20] The hosts announce that they will be watching Stanley Kubrick's Paths of Glory next week and discuss their familiarity with Kubrick's movies.

Middle School Memories [00:02:39] One of the hosts recalls watching Escape from Alcatraz in middle school after reading a book about Alcatraz. They discuss the appropriateness of showing the movie in school and their frustration with not remembering when they first watched it.

Clint Eastwood's Casting [00:10:03] The speakers discuss Clint Eastwood's casting in the movie and how it was the perfect choice for the role of Frank Morris.

The psychological weight of the film [00:15:39] The speakers discuss the psychological impact of the film on both the characters and the viewers.

Comparison to The Shawshank Redemption [00:21:33] The speakers compare Escape from Alcatraz to The Shawshank Redemption, discussing the similarities in the diverse group of prisoners and how the latter film borrows from the former.

Characters in Escape from Alcatraz [00:26:48] The speakers discuss the characters in the movie, including Fred Ward's character and Charlie Butts.

Escape from Alcatraz backstory [00:30:47] The speakers discuss the backstory of Charlie Butts, a character in the movie Escape from Alcatraz, and how he ended up in prison.

Escape Plan [00:36:07] The speakers discuss the meticulous planning and execution of the escape plan, including the use of a drill made from a fan and a drill bit, and the use of an accordion to hide items.

Suspicion [00:38:04] The speakers discuss the warden's growing suspicion of Morris and his plan, including his distrust of Charlie Butts and his decision to move Morris the following Tuesday.

Hollowing out a person [00:40:16] The impact of long-term imprisonment on a person's ability to adapt to life outside of prison, as demonstrated in Escape from Alcatraz and other films.

Escape from Alcatraz [00:42:09] The speakers discuss the intense and heartbreaking escape scene of the character Butts in the movie Escape from Alcatraz.

Open-ended ending [00:45:21] The speakers discuss the open-ended ending of the movie and how it is heartrending to know that the characters never resurfaced after their escape.

External Style of Escape from Alcatraz [00:49:07] The speakers compare the movie to Don Siegel's other movies, particularly Dirty Harry, and discuss its bare-bones style.

Escape from Alcatraz [00:49:31] The speakers discuss the movie Escape from Alcatraz, its stripped-back style, and Clint Eastwood's performance.

Movie rating [00:49:31] The speaker rates the movie Escape from Alcatraz a nine out of ten.

Podcast outro [00:51:17] The speakers give their social media handles and thank the listeners for tuning in.

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"If you kill people for a living and have no feelings about it, it feels a little psychopathic." - Austin Lugo

Andrew and Austin discuss the film "Fallen Angels" in detail, analyzing its cinematography, editing, themes, and characters. They praise the film's stylistic choices, including its use of voiceover, neon lights, and Cantopop music. Austin and Andrew also touch on the film's themes of identity and the desire to escape oneself and note its historical context as a former British colony.

Movies Mentioned

Time Stamps

Escape from Alcatraz [00:00:29]

The hosts announce their plans to watch the film "Escape from Alcatraz" in the next episode.

Assassin and his partner [00:04:00]

The hosts briefly mention the plot of "Fallen Angels," including the main character being an assassin and his non-romantic partner who takes his sheets home.

Assassin's Confidence [00:11:16]

The hosts praise the assassin's confidence and swag, which they believe is necessary for an assassin.

Psychosexual relationship between the characters [00:13:16]

The hosts analyze the relationship between the two main characters in "Fallen Angels," which is characterized by a strange mix of partnership, attraction, and competition.

Blondie and the Assistant [00:15:01]

Discussion of the scene where the Assistant and Blonie have sex while the Assistant's boss is on a job, and the contrast between Blonie's obsession with the physical and the Assistant's boss's obsession with the soul.

The monotony of a professional assassin [00:19:12]

The hosts discuss how the film "Fallen Angels" makes the exciting job of a professional assassin feel like a boring nine-to-five job.

The mute man [00:20:29]

The hosts talk about the character of the mute man in the film "Fallen Angels" and his strange behavior, including taking over people's food businesses and forcing them to buy things.

The ice cream truck scene [00:21:28]

The hosts describe one of their favorite scenes in the film "Fallen Angels," where the mute man forces a man and his family to eat ice cream in an ice cream truck.

The Jukebox Moment [00:24:47]

Description of a powerful moment in the film where color is used to highlight the jukebox, and a touching song plays.

The theme of identity in "Fallen Angels" [00:27:47]

The hosts discuss the theme of identity in the film "Fallen Angels," including characters who dye their hair blonde to be someone else and the protagonist's cutting off of relationships.

Forgetting and being forgotten [00:32:14]

The hosts talk about the impressive writing in the film "Fallen Angels" and how one character predicts that the other will forget him, which ends up happening. They also mention a sad scene where a girl doesn't remember the mute character.

The Culmination of the Film [00:35:01]

The hosts discuss the climax of the film "Fallen Angels" and the stylistic elements that lead up to it.

The Samurai Code [00:36:18]

The hosts draw a comparison between the protagonist's final moments and the samurai code of committing suicide.

The Father's Death [00:39:03]

The hosts discuss the powerful moment when the mute character watches videos of his father after his sudden death.

Transition to Daylight [00:44:03]

The hosts praise the closing shot of "Fallen Angels" where the characters transition from darkness to daylight, symbolizing the beginning of something new.

Comparison to "In the Mood for Love" [00:48:06]

The hosts briefly compare "Fallen Angels" to another film by the same director, "In the Mood for Love."

Where to find the podcast [00:49:10]

The hosts provide information on where to find their podcast on various platforms and social media.

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A year after the murder of her mother, a teenage girl is terrorized by a masked killer who targets her and her friends by using scary movies as part of a deadly game.

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The life and times of George Lucas, the soon to be death of Movie Pass, and the lore of assasins

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