“The reason why that call stands out to me is because I would like to think that if I had known his history, I would have done the exact same thing that I did.” I talked to one of my favorite people, Phil, about his beginnings in EMS and his podcast that reaches out to many first responders and leaves an impact on our community. Listen in to this episode as he gives a recollection of his own story that challenged him, and an open conversation on justice and judgment in EMS. 

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