In this episode, I speak to wolf biologist and author of the new book, Restoring Balance: What Wolves Tell Us About Our Relationship With Nature, John Vucetich. John has been studying wolves and the predator/prey relationship with moose in Isle Royale for 25 years. With recent efforts to end protections for the Gray Wolf in the lower 48, John goes into why the science and data doesn’t back wolf hunting. We also discuss how to have a civil discussion with someone who is anti-wolf and why the Biden administration isn’t stepping in to protect the Gray Wolf.

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