This episode of Women and Resistance celebrates Roberta Flack’s life, music, and political commitments through a wide-ranging conversation that moves from childhood to global activism.
Adesoji Iginla frames Flack as an artist who never separated art from justice, and Aya embodies Flack, responding with stories about music, teaching, love, and the causes she backed throughout her career.
We discuss how her family, education, and early work as a teacher shaped the artist she became, as well as the songs and collaborations that made her a legend. The conversation also highlights her resistance work on Black self-determination, gender, anti-apartheid solidarity, and music education.
Takeaways
*Roberta Flack traces her roots to Black Mountain, North Carolina, and remembers the family home where music was everywhere.
*Her father, Lauron, was a self-taught jazz pianist, while her mother, Irene, played organ at church.
*Flack recalls the pea green upright piano her father rescued from a junkyard and repaired for her.
*She explains how classical training led her to Howard University, where she won a full music scholarship at age 15 and graduated at 19 with a degree in music education.
*Before fame, she was a schoolteacher in segregated schools in Farmville, North Carolina, and Washington, D.C.
*She shares how singing at Mr Henry’s on Capitol Hill led to her discovery and first record deal.
*Flack explains why her 1969 debut album, First Take, opened with the protest song “Compared to What.”
*She reflects on “Ballad of the Sad Young Men” as a lament for the hidden lives of gay men before Stonewall.
*She tells the story behind “The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face” and how Clint Eastwood helped bring it to a wider audience.
*She discusses her back-to-back Grammy wins for Record of the Year.
*She talks about her collaboration with Donny Hathaway, including “Where Is the Love,” “The Closer I Get to You,” and “Be Real Black for Me.”
*Flack recounts her activism with Jesse Jackson, Operation Breadbasket, and Operation PUSH.
*She emphasises that music is never neutral and that every performance is a choice about the world an artist helps create.
*She remembers her friendships and solidarity with Angela Davis, Stevie Wonder, Ben Vereen, Nelson Mandela, and others.
*She highlights her work in education and philanthropy, including the Roberta Flack School of Music and the Roberta Flack Foundation.
*She closes with reflections on ALS, the loss of her singing voice, and her children’s picture book.
*The Green Piano: How Little Me Found Music, and her advice to use your gift before it is too late.
Chapters
00:00 - Welcome to Women and Resistance and the legacy of Roberta Flack
03:22 - A musical household in Black Mountain, North Carolina
05:24 - The pea green piano rescued from a junkyard
07:10 - Classical training, Howard University, and music education
09:48 - Teaching in segregated schools before fame
12:48 - Singing at Mr Henry’s and being discovered
13:17 - An interracial marriage under Virginia segregation
16:02 - Why the marriage ended when her career took off
18:17 - Hearing “The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face” on a plane
22:33 - Les McCann, Atlantic Records, and First Take
23:28 - Why her debut album opened with “Compared to What”
26:31 - Reinterpreting “Ballad of the Sad Young Men” for hidden queer lives
30:03 - Clint Eastwood brings “The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face” to the screen
32:24 - Back-to-back Record of the Year Grammy wins
35:33 - Donny Hathaway, “The Closer I Get to You,” and “Be Real Black for Me”
40:09 - Operation Breadbasket, Jesse Jackson, and Operation PUSH
43:14 - Music as a form of political choice
44:16 - Friendship with Angela Davis and songs that affirm dignity
45:58 - Standing with Stevie Wonder and Nelson Mandela
48:19 - “Tonight, I Celebrate My Love” and later collaborations
49:55 - The Roberta Flack School of Music and her foundation
52:51 - Awards, honours, and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame absence
56:23 - Hosting Brunch with Roberta Flack and recording into her 70s
57:31 - ALS, her final recording, and the lesson to use your gift now
58:53 - The Green Piano and the final years of her life
60:35 - Closing reflections on a life fully lived and shared
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