Women Just Like You, with Audrey Utchen

By Audrey Utchen

Audrey Utchen is talking with Women Just Like You to democratize the middle of our careers! Audrey is a former recruiter, a current deal strategist in tech, and a future executive in the making who is... more

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April 24, 2024TikTok, Mortgages, Mom-Life, and a Dose of “We’ll All Die One Day”, with Theoni The Lender
Theoni Rapo joins us on the season 1 finale of "Women Just Like You", a podcast full of career advice for women in the middle of their careers directly from women in the middle of theirs. Theoni’s career as a loan officer starting as a social media internship at a bank freshman year of college and she never went back, combining both interests to build her brand as Not Your Daddy’s Lender and disrupt the mortgage industry, get speaking gigs, and set-up multiple businesses to get to BILLIONAIRE status one day.
She’s now using TikTok and Instagram to generate leads for her mortgage business and has created an entire backend system to support going viral on her page @TheoniTheLender, which will be super helpful as her second child is due this summer and she’ll need to take some time off as her family grows. Theoni also gets real with us about being a working mom, including the honest truth about maternity leave in her world and how hard it is to set boundaries while trying to grow her mortgage business. She shares her motivation with us and it’s a super inspiring discussion making me want to do what she’s doing after listening to this! But more importantly, this interview will leave you thinking “If she can do it, so can I” which is the WHOLE point of this show.

Our conversation is full of:
The real honest truth about being a working mom and entrepreneur with a toddler in tow

Social media tips for building a top-notch personal brand people will take seriously

Educating consumers about the biggest purchase they’ll ever make, their home

How she thinks about social media as a lead generator for her mortgage business

Her approach to building out multiple businesses with her husband

And doing all that while prepping for baby #2 (it’s a girl!)

Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Childhood Dreams
06:47 Career Journey and Starting in Mortgages
09:15 Role as a Mortgage Banker and Loan Officer
12:06 Benefits and Flexibility of the Job
13:19 Tips for Becoming a Loan Officer
23:05 Opportunities from Social Media Presence
28:02 Advice for Women Getting Active on Social Media
31:07 Diversifying Platforms
32:20 Starting with One Platform
33:16 Differentiating Platforms
34:38 Navigating News and Changes
35:57 Transparency in Real Estate Commissions
37:33 Lead Generation on TikTok
38:37 Adapting and Pivoting in Real Estate
39:56 Balancing Work and Motherhood
40:55 Preparing for the Next Phase
45:13 Aspirational Goals
46:30 Asking for Help
49:39 Motivation and Inspiration
55:31 Future Career and Goals
59:32 Favorite Inspirational Quote

The things we chat about!
Audrey’s photoshoot with Christina Gavin Photography (SF Bay Area) @christinagavinphotography
Theoni’s photoshoot with Lena Nikolaj (New Jersey / New York, but travels!) @lenanikolaj
We Croak app: https://www.wecroak.com/
You can connect with Theoni at:
@theonithelender on Instagram and TikTok
[email protected]
notyourdaddyslender.com/links
linkedin.com/in/theonirapo/
You can find Audrey at:
⁠www.audreyutchen.com⁠
⁠linkedin.com/in/audreyutchen⁠
@audreythecareerwoman on Instagram and YouTube
Join the distribution list to get behind-the-scenes content about the making each episode, along with monthly career development recommendations: ⁠https://shorturl.at/begnv⁠
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"Women Just Like You" is a career advice podcast for women in the middle of their careers directly from women in the middle of theirs. Join Audrey on Wednesdays to hear from women just like you: not a new professional but not at the top of the ladder just yet, and learn what they are up to at this exact stage of their career journey.
Theme music is “Dance of the Violins” by F-777, usable under Creative Commons.
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April 17, 2024From Astronaut to Aspiring Data Scientist, with Katherine Bell
Katherine Bell, a data analyst at Asana, joins us this week on “Women Just Like You”, a podcast full of career advice for women in the middle of their careers directly from women in the middle of theirs. Katherine’s journey from wanting to be an astronaut as a kid to a pivotal player in data analytics shows the impact continuous learning and transformation can have on your career journey. She dives into her switch from urban planning to data analysis, emphasizing the importance of embracing new challenges -- like branching out as a consultant -- and the instrumental role of feedback in career growth.

Katherine and I met through a career development program that pairs women at our company Asana with other women in the middle of their careers to support each other in achieving great things. Katherine shares her immediate goal of upleveling into a data scientist and her broader aspirations that just might include a graduate degree one day!

Our conversation is full of:
The shift from urban planning to embracing the complexities of data.

The significance of feedback and open dialogues with supervisors.

Setting realistic short-term and ambitious long-term career goals.

Why continuing education might be a crucial step for career advancement.

Encouraging other women to pursue their career goals relentlessly.

And laughing a lot along the way!

Chapters
00:00 Childhood Dream of Becoming an Astronaut
01:42 Transition from Urban Planning to Data Science
02:31 Transition from Urban Planning to Data Analysis
06:23 Career Path and Transition to Data Science
11:42 Challenges and Learning Experiences
12:47 Decision to Attend a Data Science Bootcamp
21:42 The Role of Data Science in Urban Planning
22:10 Navigating a Temporary Lateral Move
25:18 Unofficial Internship as a Data Scientist
31:42 Advice for Women in the Middle of Their Careers
33:15 Leveraging Feedback and Peer Input
38:24 Short-Term and Long-Term Career Goals
41:42 Closing Remarks and Takeaways

You can connect with Katherine at:
www.linkedin.com/in/kathmbell/
You can find Audrey at:
⁠www.audreyutchen.com⁠
www.⁠linkedin.com/in/audreyutchen⁠
@audreythecareerwoman on Instagram and YouTube
Join the distribution list to get behind-the-scenes content about the making each episode, along with monthly career development recommendations:
⁠https://shorturl.at/begnv⁠

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"Women Just Like You" is a career advice podcast for women in the middle of their careers directly from women in the middle of theirs. Join Audrey on Wednesdays to hear from women just like you: not a new professional but not at the top of the ladder just yet, and learn what they are up to at this exact stage of their career journey.

Theme music is “Dance of the Violins” by F-777, usable under Creative Commons.
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April 10, 2024Deanne Bhamgara: Bridging the Gap between Business and Technology in RevOps
Deanne Bhamgara, a Revenue Operations and Salesforce CPQ systems expert, is this week’s episode on Women Just Like You, a career advice podcast for women in the middle of their careers directly from women in the middle of theirs. Deanne grew up in Nigeria, started her career in marketing in India, and later transitioned to revenue operations in California where she became a liaison between users and technology. She emphasizes the importance of community and learning from others, as well as taking leaps of faith and pursuing additional qualifications or testing out different job structures (think leaving a full-time role for a contract job). She encourages women to pursue a career in RevOps and offers tips for getting started, such as joining a bootcamp and finding a supportive community. Deanne also highlights how women are the perfect type of people to work in RevOps because of our natural communication and collaboration skills!
Listen to our conversation, which shares how Deanne’s childhood dream of becoming a pilot turned into her role in technology today!
Our conversation is full of:
Having a global mindset

How to connect the dots between seemingly unrelated roles

Staying motivated even after you fail

Building a supportive community during times of change

The nuances between full time, contract, and apprenticeship roles

When to pursue additional qualifications

Being a woman in RevOps

And navigating when to speak Hindi, English, or a combination of the two!

Chapters
00:00 Childhood Dreams and Global Perspectives
09:45 Career Journey and Marketing Experience
11:57 Transition to Revenue Operations
20:04 Bridging the Gap Between Marketing and IT
25:15 Pursuing Additional Qualifications
28:50 The Power of Certification and Community
30:30 Different Job Structures: Full-Time, Contract, and Apprenticeship
32:44 Responsibilities and Career Development in Full-Time Roles
34:04 Building Community and Networking Opportunities
36:19 Women in the Rev Ops World
40:30 Tips for Pursuing a Career in Rev Ops
43:02 Career Paths After the Bootcamp
46:16 Career Outlook and Learning Opportunities
50:01 Advocating for Yourself in the Workplace
53:42 Every Day as a Personal Practice for Self-Betterment

You can connect with Deanne at:
www.linkedin.com/in/deannebhamgara/
You can find Audrey at:
⁠www.audreyutchen.com⁠
www.⁠linkedin.com/in/audreyutchen⁠
@audreythecareerwoman on Instagram and YouTube
Join the distribution list to get behind-the-scenes content about the making each episode, along with monthly career development recommendations:
⁠https://shorturl.at/begnv⁠
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"Women Just Like You" is a career advice podcast for women in the middle of their careers directly from women in the middle of theirs. Join Audrey on Wednesdays to hear from women just like you: not a new professional but not at the top of the ladder just yet, and learn what they are up to at this exact stage of their career journey.
Theme music is “Dance of the Violins” by F-777, usable under Creative Commons.
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April 03, 2024Ashley Madrigal: Using Mindfulness to Navigate a Tech Layoff
On the fifth episode of “Women Just Like You”, we are joined by Ashley Madrigal! Ashley is a first generation latina who was hired as a recruiting coordinator on the spot after college, and has spent every year since trying out different parts of the Human Resources world until she was laid off several months ago during a tech layoff.
Ashley has faced challenges and had to advocate for herself throughout her career and emphasizes the importance of asking questions, networking, and being resourceful in career development. Her involvement in employee resource groups (ERGs) has had a significant impact on her career progression, allowing her to advocate for fair compensation and secure a title change as well as given her opportunities outside of her day job.
Audrey and Ashley spend a good amount of the conversation chatting about how Ashley has navigated her layoff, what she’s looking for in her next role, and how she’s practicing mindfulness every day.
Our conversation is full of:
Why you should network within your company and be your own brand

How self-reflection, continuous learning, and pursuing passions are important for career development
Being a latina in tech

The impact of ERG involvement on career growth

What factors to think about when looking for a new role

Why you need to learn your no is just as important as your yes

#standonbusiness

And how family can be the support system you need to get through the tough times!
You can find more information about Don Miguel Ruiz’s four agreements that Ashley talked about at www.miguelruiz.com/the-four-agreements
Chapters:
0:00 Childhood Dreams and Career Beginnings
04:37 Navigating High School as a First-Generation Latina
09:58 Career Journey and Learning to Say No
13:50 Looking for the First Job as a First-Generation College Student
15:44 Pivoting Within a Company and Advocating for Yourself
21:30 Navigating Layoffs and Reflecting on Career
24:42 Importance of ERGs and Company Culture
32:04 Approaching Time Between Jobs and Navigating Layoffs
34:51 Taking Time to Re-Energize
35:37 Factors to Consider in a New Job
36:57 Importance of Manager Connection
37:32 Setting Expectations with Managers
38:42 Asking Questions and Evaluating Job Opportunities
40:35 Inclusivity, Growth, and Employee Benefits
41:26 Trusting the Journey and Embracing Rejection
42:44 The Importance of Mindfulness and Nervous System Regulation
43:46 The Experience of Being a Latina in Tech
47:00 Career Aspirations in HR and Personal Branding
48:15 Advice for Women in the Middle of Their Careers
51:03 Inspirational Quotes and Sayings
You can connect with Ashley at:
@flowithashley on Instagram and TikTok
@ashleyy_madrigal on Instagram
www.linkedin.com/in/ashley-madrigal-778337113/
You can find Audrey at:
⁠www.audreyutchen.com⁠
⁠linkedin.com/in/audreyutchen⁠
@audreythecareerwoman on Instagram and YouTube
Join the distribution list to get behind-the-scenes content about the making each episode, along with monthly career development recommendations:
⁠https://shorturl.at/begnv⁠
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"Women Just Like You" is a career advice podcast for women in the middle of their careers directly from women in the middle of theirs. Join Audrey on Wednesdays to hear from women just like you: not a new professional but maybe not a VP just yet, and learn what they are up to at this exact stage of their careers.
Theme music is “Dance of the Violins” by F-777, usable under Creative Commons.
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March 27, 2024Jennie Kaplan Woodson: Pairing Wine and Hotel Sales for a Fruitful Hospitality Career
On the fourth episode of “Women Just Like You”, we are joined by a woman climbing the ranks of hospitality sales, who happens to be one of my best friends! Round of applause for Jennie Kaplan Woodson, a saleswoman thriving in the San Francisco hospitality industry. She can sell you room blocks, event space, and even sell the wine to pair with your food for your trip to the CIty By The Bay.
Jennie has spent the last 9 years working her way up the food chain in hospitality sales and taking ownership in her career growth. She juggled restaurant, catering, and event jobs down in San Diego before moving to Sonoma to sell the Hyatt from initial inquiry to closing the final tab at a hotel that was central to wine country tourism. Then she moved to San Francisco to sell her DREAM property, the Hyatt Regency on Embarcadero, before the pandemic took it all away 4 weeks later. She didn’t panic and instead used the covid layoff to learn more about wine, and is now combining her love for both industries into a fruitful career marrying Hyatt hotel sales during the week with wine sales in Sausalito on the weekend. Listen to our fun conversation between two besties chatting about hustling in their jobs and even how a good set of nails can define your day!

Our conversation is full of:
How to advocate for yourself in career conversations

Succeeding in both hotel sales and wine sales

Using layoffs to dial in on what you love

Dreaming big and setting your sights on what comes next

Bringing other women up the ladder with you

And doing what besties do - supporting each other along the way!
Chapters:
00:00 Childhood Dreams and Career Beginnings
09:13 Career Path in Hospitality Sales
20:08 Navigating Layoffs and Job Changes
24:29 Exploring the Wine Industry
26:17 Exploring Wine Certifications
27:21 Advice for People Facing Layoffs
28:08 Doing Something Exciting
29:17 Taking a Pause and Reflecting
30:31 Choosing Between Wine and Corporate Sales
33:01 Advocating for Yourself
34:03 Empowerment through Advocacy
36:20 Negotiating for a Promotion
39:59 The Impact of Hospitality Sales
42:44 Career Aspirations in Global Sales
45:22 Continual Growth in the Middle of Your Career
47:12 Being a Boss Lady

You can connect with Jennie at:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniekaplanwoodson/
You can find Audrey at:
⁠www.audreyutchen.com⁠
⁠linkedin.com/in/audreyutchen⁠
@audreythecareerwoman on Instagram and YouTube
Join the distribution list to get behind-the-scenes content about the making each episode, along with monthly career development recommendations:
⁠https://shorturl.at/begnv⁠
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"Women Just Like You" is a career advice podcast for women in the middle of their careers from women in the middle of theirs. Join Audrey on Wednesdays to hear from women just like you: not a new professional but maybe not a VP just yet, and learn what they are up to at this exact stage of their careers.
Theme music is “Dance of the Violins” by F-777, usable under Creative Commons.
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March 20, 2024Tina Cheung: Cultivating Joy In Communities In and Out of the Workplace
On the third episode of “Women Just Like You”, we are joined by an award-winning community organizer and HR program manager: the incredible Tina Cheung!
Tina is a first generation Chinese American and was the first in her family to go to college. She started her career in community organizing within San Francisco’s Chinatown and after several years, she connected the dots between community, technology, and diversity, equity, and inclusion work to become a global talent program manager at Visa today. Alongside Tina’s 15 years of professional work, she is also heavily involved with volunteer groups in and out of the workplace, and sits on the board of several non-profits. What an honor that Tina agreed to be on the show!

Our conversation is full of:
the power of sisterhood in community organizing

building transferable skills through volunteer positions

shifting your mindset from scarcity to abundance

using the power of joy to steer career decisions

networking to build community both in and out of the workplace

embracing rejection as a temporary setback

You can connect with Tina at:
www.linkedin.com/in/tinaccheung
You can find Audrey at:
⁠www.audreyutchen.com⁠
⁠linkedin.com/in/audreyutchen⁠
@audreythecareerwoman on Instagram and YouTube
Join the distribution list to get behind-the-scenes content about the making each episode, along with monthly career development recommendations:
⁠https://shorturl.at/begnv⁠
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"Women Just Like You" is a career advice podcast for women in the middle of their careers from women in the middle of theirs. Join Audrey on Wednesdays to hear from women just like you: not a new professional but maybe not a VP just yet, and learn what they are up to at this exact stage of their careers.
Theme music is “Dance of the Violins” by F-777, usable under Creative Commons.
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March 13, 2024Kimberly Brown: Transitioning out of Teaching with Transferable Skills
Join Audrey on this week’s episode of “Women Just Like You”, where she talks with Kimberly Brown! A little bit about Kim:

Kim is a former teacher and principal, whose career started off in a teaching fellowship program in Washington DC. She spent 12 years teaching students and managing schools across the country before deciding to leave the field during the pandemic. Kim and Audrey were paired together through a Phi Beta Kappa mentorship program at that time (so you know she’s a smart cookie) and was sure to leave education with a plan. She was strategic about her decision to transition out of teaching and proactively sought out help by getting involved in mentorship programs and professional groups. And now, she successfully transitioned into legal operations first at Meta and now Netflix!

Our conversation is full of:
How to successfully transition out of education (have a plan!)

Package your skill set in different ways for different industries

Networking in the post-pandemic world

Prioritizing well-being while working

Asking for help when it comes unnaturally to you

What exactly is operations?

Taking risks with contract roles

Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Childhood Dream
04:00 Desire to Become a Teacher
05:42 Career in Education
11:19 Transitioning Out of Education
12:46 Reflections for Women in Education
20:48 Transition to a Corporate Role
23:16 Experience as a Woman in a Corporate Environment
24:14 Navigating Challenges in a Contract Job
25:11 Approaching the Job Search with a Deadline
28:31 Understanding the Role of a Project/Program Manager
32:50 Memorable Project: Summer Internship Program
35:13 The Value of Professional Groups and Networking
39:19 Taking on Consulting and Part-Time Gigs
42:39 Career Outlook: Growth and Skill Development
46:14 Inspirational Quote To Close Us Out

You can connect with Kim at:
www.linkedin.com/in/kbbrown17/

You can find Audrey at:
www.audreyutchen.com
linkedin.com/in/audreyutchen
@audreythecareerwoman on Instagram and YouTube

Join the distribution list to get behind-the-scenes content about the making each episode, along with monthly career development recommendations:
https://shorturl.at/begnv

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"Women Just Like You" is a career advice podcast for women in the middle of their careers from women in the middle of theirs. Join Audrey on Wednesdays to hear from women just like you: not a new professional but not a VP (just yet!) and learn what they are up to at this exact stage of their careers.
Theme music is "Dance of the Violins" by F-777, usable under Creative Commons.
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March 06, 2024Arissan Nicole: Using Career Pivots to Build Confidence in Herself and Others
Introducing the first guest of "Women Just Like You", Arissan Nicole! Arissan is a certified and internationally nominated Career and Confidence Coach and Workforce Empowerment Expert, who Audrey met through a career development program at work. She is absolutely incredible — helping women get the confidence to do the exact same big career pivot she has done not once, but TWICE! Arissan empowers her clients to take control of their careers and leads women through the job search process from the inside out.

Arissan's career has taken her from Seattle to Singapore, from international trade to children's healthcare, and now as a founder of two companies: Seattle Self-Defense and her coaching business. Fun fact — she's a certified black belt in Tae Kwan Do!

Our conversation is full of:
helpful tips about navigating career pivots

learning to listen to your body when designing your business

what is really like to be an entrepreneur

the things she loves about being a career coach

and themes she is seeing across her clientele (more women just like you!)

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and Childhood Dreams
03:04 Career Path to Date
09:16 Being a Young Latina in the Workplace
12:53 Advice to Younger Self
15:39 Negotiating Salary
17:51 Becoming Your Own Boss
21:24 Trusting Yourself in Entrepreneurship
23:25 The Joys of Being a Career Coach
26:17 Syncing Workouts to Your Cycle
30:41 Tasks and Activities in Business
34:20 Themes for Career Check-ins
40:24 Transformational Journey of a Client
47:48 Future Career Plans
50:39 Advice for Women in the Middle of Their Careers
52:17 Closing Remarks

If you want to learn more about cycle syncing, read the book Arissan mentioned in the show: “In The Flo” by Alisa Vitti.

You can connect with Arissan at:
https://www.arissannicole.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/arissan/
@arissannicole on Instagram and YouTube

You can find Audrey at:
www.audreyutchen.com
linkedin.com/in/audreyutchen
@audreythecareerwoman on Instagram and YouTube

Join the distribution list to get behind-the-scenes content about the making each episode, along with monthly career development recommendations:
https://shorturl.at/begnv
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"Women Just Like You" is a career advice podcast for women in the middle of their careers from women in the middle of theirs. Join Audrey on Wednesdays to hear from women just like you: not a new professional but not a VP (just yet!) and learn what they are up to at this exact stage of their careers.

Theme music is "Dance of the Violins" by F-777, usable under Creative Commons.
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February 21, 2024 Women Just Like You | Season 1 Trailer with Audrey Utchen
Introducing Women Just Like You, a podcast full of career advice for women in the middle of their careers directly from women in the middle of theirs. Host Audrey Utchen provides a behind-the-scenes look at what's to come this first season.
The first interview drops on Wednesday March 6th! See you there.
Theme music is Dance of the Violins by F-777, free to use under Creative Commons and under Public Domain.
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FAQs about Women Just Like You, with Audrey Utchen:

How many episodes does Women Just Like You, with Audrey Utchen have?

The podcast currently has 9 episodes available.