Rick begins the episode by welcoming and introducing Dr. Angie Ward and explaining his relationship with her.

Angie jumps in by talking about her book, 'I Am A Leader.' She shares that when she started out in a leadership position, she struggled with an identity reframing and feelings of being alone as a woman in leadership.

Lauren and Angie clarify for listeners that a leader is anyone with influence, not just an organizational or church leader.

Both Angie and Rick also voice that the conversations of leadership and shepherding are important to both woman and men. Angie expresses that someone's calling from God is what makes them a leader, no matter their circumstances or what their lives look like.

Rick brings up the internal transformation aspect of leadership, and how important that is. Angie adds to this by sharing some stories from her own life where she experienced personal growth on her journey to becoming and seeing herself as a leader.

Angie finishes the episode by spending time talking about the tension that can exist for women in leadership, particularly the tension between home, family, and work.

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About Angie Ward:

Angie is a leadership author and teacher, currently based in Denver, Colorado, where she serves as Assistant Director of the Doctor of Ministry program at Denver Seminary. Find her online on her website or on Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter.