Is there an underlying message that women convey to men? The phrase "You're not listening" is a form of shaming that may have originated from the wounds inflicted by parents, and it can impact present communication between genders. Therefore, checking our internal emotional state before speaking is essential because avoidance is not a conscious reaction. Communication stems from within and is projected onto the other, making understanding how women can effectively communicate with men crucial. In this regard, the podcast of Kenya and Steve on communication can be enlightening. Communication cannot flourish in a hierarchical relationship, and Kenya shares her experiences of improving herself and her marriage through effective communication. Click the “Learn More” link for the podcast on the topic of women communicating with men.