Beautiful interview with Jade's mum, Sally. A local community icon and leader, humble as a frog, Sally discussess her journey into leadership, the people who have influenced this journey, the importance of community. Supporting whānau, fostering creativity and learning spaces where children flourish, connecting people with place, history and community. The impact she has had through the community over the years, she wouldn't admit, but has been massive. This comes through in the interview with her holistic worldview and beautiful way of relating to people. This show was broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin - oar.org.nz