In this episode, Larissa & Elizabeth discuss what play and getting curious have to do with liberation. If we could sum up this episode in one sentence: How we create a better world is by creating opportunities for people to play together, and to enjoy being together.

Stuff we mentioned:

Honorée Fanonne Jeffers' book, ‘The love songs of WEB DuBois’

'Cloud cuckoo land’ by Anthony Doerr.

Stuart Brown TED talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/stuart_brown_play_is_more_than_just_fun/transcript?language=en#t-758879

Summary of Brown’s work by Larry Maguire-- Larissa found this while googling for a list of the properties and it’s just very concise.

Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

We mentioned, but did not quote, Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi’s work on flow.

Dianne Bondy & Amber Karnes, Yoga for All

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We explore who your Right People are, how to figure out who your Right People are NOT, and talk about Right Relationship.

Mentioned in this episode:
Everyman, M. Shelly Conner

Rock The Boat, Resmaa Menakem

Conflict Is Not Abuse, Sarah Schulman

The Love Songs of WEB Dubois, Honorée Fanonne Jeffers

The Prophets, Robert Jones Jr.

Homegoing, Yaa Gyasi

How We Show Up, Mia Birdsong

Relationship Red Flags, Elizabeth M. Johnson

Annie Duke

Duped podcast

Toi Marie on the "impossibility of removing ourselves from a capitalist system."

Bruce Perry 

The Body Is Not An Apology, Sonya Renee Taylor

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Larissa and Elizabeth discuss big pleasures, small pleasures, and how pleasure is essential to liberation.

Some things we mention:
Christy Harrison, Anti-Diet

Holland Cotter, Can We Ever Look at Titian’s Paintings the Same Way Again?

TJ Klune, The Extraordinaries

Huberman Lab: Controlling Your Dopamine For Motivation, Focus & Satisfaction | Huberman Lab Podcast #39

Dorothy Roberts, Killing the Black Body: Race, Reproduction and the Meaning of Liberty

adrienne maree brown, Pleasure Activism

Audre Lorde, Uses of the Erotic (reprinted within Pleasure Activism)

adrienne maree brown and Emma Bracy interview: https://repeller.com/what-is-pleasure-activism/

The Nap Ministry

Dr. Bruce Perry

Sonya Renee Taylor

Strong Arm Baking Co.

Fieldstone Garden CSA

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Elizabeth and Larissa share a bit about themselves and their vision for Wondermine.
 

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