上班摸鱼，谁还不会点？这一期，凯文和小花终于聊到了一个每个打工人都深有共鸣的主题——如何用 AI 摸鱼？

从最经典的“带薪拉屎”到今天的“用 AI 自动写周报”，我们用轻松搞笑的方式回顾了那些年我们都用过的离谱摸鱼招式，同时也认真探讨了：

最后，当然少不了纯享环节：“AI 时代以前的荒谬摸鱼大赏”，保证让你边听边笑边感叹：原来我们真的挺有创意的。

如果你今天正坐在格子间里刷播客，那这期就是为你量身打造的——

-0:50 上班摸鱼好像是打工人的常态

-2:02 除了带薪拉屎，现代人怎么用 AI 摸鱼？

-4:25 用 AI 提高工作效率和用ai 摸鱼的边界在哪里？

-5:24 AI 帮你摸鱼是帮你压缩工作量

-10:10 工作量压缩过后我们可以干嘛？

-11:20 用AI 生成的文档是可以溯源的，还是需要我们自己来调整

-14:20 以前的工作是工作本身，现在的工作有一部也是调整 AI 的prompt

-16:50 不要当 AI 的搬运工，找出ai可能出错的地方，然后拓宽我们的思考边界

-17:30 要保留修改痕迹，展现批判性思维

-18:10 不要老是让 AI 回答问题，要让 AI 帮你提问题

-22:30 利用 AI 摸鱼的时候我们要尽量体现我们人类的价值

-26:17 在有 AI 以前，荒谬的摸鱼大法分享 - 纯享版

这一期，我们请来了一位很酷的嘉宾——Soma Mo，加拿大的“野生”珠宝首饰设计师。她的设计作品张扬、奔放，充满生命力，和她本人一样鲜活。

从一开始坚定“非艺术不搞”的理想主义，到降薪转行、远走他乡、背水一战踏入珠宝首饰设计行业，Soma 的职业之路没有标准答案，却充满热情与执着。她跟我们聊了很多关于坚持、关于美、也关于如何在加拿大这样的环境下从零开始，真正打开自己的局面。

我们聊到了她如何“死缠烂打”地在云南拜师錾刻师傅、如何维持创作灵感、如何在海外作为艺术家生存下去。如果你正在探索自己的热爱，或者正在犹豫要不要All in某件事，这一期你会找到力量。

Soma Mo 珠宝设计师网站：https://www.somamo.ca/

-2:25 嘉宾自我介绍，“野生”首饰设计师

-6:35 为什么那么坚定的一定要搞艺术，即使不是科班出身？

-8:55 降薪转战去设计公司工作，只为了和艺术更沾边

-10:55 怎么开始转战到珠宝设计？

-14:30 艺术这条路很难，有过放弃的念头吗？

-16:20 走上珠宝设计这条路，是背水一战

-18:20 干就完了，没有什么好担忧的

-21:00 在加拿大如何在首饰设计届打开局面？ （干货）

-28:00 对美的感悟，是天赋异禀还是靠后天的努力？

-33:35 在加拿大首饰设计界创业，吃过的亏和踩过的坑

-35:20 给大家科普下什么是錾刻？它为什么独特

-37:00 执着不放弃，“死缠烂打” 的拜师过程

-42:55 作为全职艺术家（自由职业者），你的一天是怎么安排的？

-48:00 给从事艺术的想要搬到国外的小伙伴的建议

-49:20 作为艺术家，如何保持创作力？

这一期终于轮到我们久违的主播分享啦！

我们讨论了财富和“有钱”的区别，为什么懂得适可而止比不断追求“更多”更难也更重要。

社交媒体放大了我们的欲望，却也让我们忽视了自己的节奏。我们还聊到如何建立复利型的人生策略，坚持长期主义，以及怎样才能在混乱的消费世界中找到真正让自己感到快乐的事。我们不是在教理财，而是试图从心理学的角度重新理解“钱”在我们生活中的角色。

如果你正在经历金钱焦虑，或对未来感到迷茫，这期可能会带给你一些新的视角。

希望我们真诚的对谈能让你意识到：60分的人生也值得，有选择的自由本身就是一种财富。而“够了”，有时候真的比“更多”更重要。

-02:00 我们为什么想要推荐这本书

-05:20 很多年前花纸币会潜意识的让我们少花钱，而现在花钱很没有概念

-07:45 总结提炼第一部分：财富和有钱到底有什么区别？

-12:40 跟自己比，能有能力做自由的选择就是财富的象征

-17:40 现在的社交媒体会潜意识的让我们把自己的生活和别人的生活做对比

-22:30 总结提炼第二部分：很多人因为不知道什么时候“够了”，最终在贪婪中赔光了一切

-25:15 复利的长期思维：坚持

-31:40 了解自己，什么对自己最重要，什么让自己最开心

-33:30 总结提炼第三部分：如何减少痛苦，让自己内心平静； 够了比更多更重要

-37:15 消费带来的多巴胺刺激会持续多久

-44:40 60分的人生也值得过，不要光盯着120分的生活

This Episode marks a very special milestone - our 100th episode! Over the past 99 episodes, we've invited professionals from all walks of life to share stories about their careers, transitions, and personal insights. But for our 100th episode, we wanted to do something different, lighthearted, and a little unexpected.

So we invited Apollo, a bright and curious 10-year-old, to be our guest. Apollo lives in Washington State, loves hockey, math, science, and piano. As the first generation of AI Natives, he's already using AI tools to generate artwork and research pro athletes for fantasy sports. We asked him what he thinks about AI, what he imagines his future job might look like, and whether he’s more interested in becoming an NHL star, a NASA Engineer, or maybe both. Along the way, we also talked about his favourite books, role models, music, and what it’s like being a 10-year-old growing up in a tech-driven world.

If you’ve ever wondered how the next generation sees AI, or you just want to celebrate this 100th episode milestone with us in a fun and refreshing way, this is the episode for you. Thank you for listening and growing with us - and here’s to the next 100!

Time Mark:

-1:05 Special guest introduction

-4:00 Have you already experienced AI at school?

-5:45 Explain AI in one sentence

-9:10 How do you think AI will be involved in Hockey?

-12:00 “I still want to have a real coach, even now I have a ChatGPT coach.”

-13:45 Do you use an AI tool to analyze your hockey game

-14:00 “I feel it is more competitive now that everyone has access to ChatGPT as their coach.”

-16:20 How can AI play in the world of Math and Music?

-17:30 Does your teacher allow you to use ChatGPT to help with school work?

-20:00 Imagine you are 20 years old, what would you think your work day would look like?

-23:20 Where would you spend most of your time if, in the future, going to the office means managing a bunch of AI?

-25:40 How can AI help us throughout the day from morning to night?

-27:45 “A robot referee on the ice would not be biased.”

-30:30 “I would not go watch a hockey match that is played by AI robots because there will be no flights.”

-32:40 To Parents: What surprised you most about how easily kids like Apollo use AI?

-36:30 To Parents: Any rules you set at home?

-38:40 If you could set one AI rule for the whole world, what would it be?

-40:05 What would you tell another 10-year-old who wants to start using AI for projects?

-41:15 Finish this sentence: ‘In the future, I hope AI helps us ________.

This week, we’re joined by Mandy, a CPA whose career journey has taken her from a bank teller job in Vancouver to the Big Four in Switzerland.

After graduating from UBC, Mandy took a gap year to travel before embarking on a career in audit work in Vancouver. But her story didn’t stop there. One year into the pandemic, she packed her bags for Amsterdam and eventually landed in Switzerland, where she now works and lives.

In this episode, Mandy shares her experiences navigating the challenges of moving across continents, adapting to different work cultures, and integrating into new communities — all while building a global career in accounting. We also talked about the evolving role of CPAs in today’s business world, from ESG to AI to remote work, and why money alone isn’t the reason she keeps going.

Whether you’re curious about international careers, life in Europe, or making bold career moves, Mandy’s story is sure to inspire.

-2:05 How does a bank teller in Vancouver end up working for the Big Four in Switzerland?

-8:45 There are a lot of big companies that want to attract foreign workers to the Netherlands 

-10:40 Do you find it easy to just speak English at work?

-15:10 The level of English is not too high in Switzerland, and they have three languages 

-19:50 Where did you get the courage and motivation to move to a new place?

-24:00 Can you compare the working culture among Canada, Netherlands, and Switzerland? 

-33:50 People respect Lunch time in Europe

-38:00 ChatGPT told me you need to join a sports club to meet new people

-40:00 How do you see the role of CPAs evolving in today’s global business landscape, especially with things like ESG, AI, and remote work?

-49:45 Money is not the motivation to keep me going, and I want to explore other things in life

-51:55 For someone listening who dreams of working internationally, what’s your biggest piece of advice?

在本期节目中，我们邀请到了新能源行业的一线实战型专家 Forrest。他早年在中东多国参与国际项目，后来加入国内大型新能源企业，从海外市场打拼起步，机缘巧合接触 ESG（环境、社会与治理），短短几年已成行业翘楚。他是业内少数既懂海外业务，又懂可持续发展的专业人士。

我们和 Forrest 聊了聊他如何从传统销售与市场岗位转型进入 ESG，又是如何一步步抓住机会，构建自己的职场竞争力。在这期节目里，你不仅能听到 ESG 到底是什么、它和 CSR（企业社会责任）/Sustainability 的区别，还能了解到 ESG 如何渗透企业运营，以及在国内推行 ESG 的挑战与机会。

如果你正在思考如何转型、如何在新能源或可持续领域开拓自己的职业路径，或者想了解 ESG 如何成为未来全球商业竞争的新逻辑，这期节目或许会给你带来不一样的启发。

-1:15 嘉宾自我介绍

-4:05 上一份工作对于转行进入ESG 领域有什么帮助？

-7:19 什么是ESG? 如何帮助我们行外人理解这个概念？

-11:29 ESG、CSR和Sustainability 用一句话总结区别

-12:05 ESG 的行业生态以及涉及的产业？

-15:05 做ESG 是一项增加成本的业务，这是做ESG最大的挑战吗？

-19:00 摸着石头过河做ESG，有什么挑战和机遇？

-20:15 ESG 不止是一个报告，也不是一个部门的事情，它对一个公司来说应该是个什么样子的？

-28:15 在国内推动ESG 有什么阻力？

-36:30 国内很多企业做了很多ESG 的事情，但是不太会讲ESG 的故事

-37:40 在这个行业里面的收获？有什么成就感？

-41:30 如何转行进入的ESG？有什么样的思考

-45:15 在国内做ESG 必备的素质和技能

-51:25 给想进入ESG 领域的小伙伴的建议

本期节目我们邀请到了资深汽车媒体人、前新浪汽车副主编——郭队，来和我们畅聊他从传统媒体到自媒体的转型之路。这不仅是一个关于汽车和内容创业的故事，更是一段关于如何在风云变幻的行业中坚持自我、不断迭代的真实写照。

节目中我们聊到了他是如何从传统汽车媒体转身汽车自媒体，并逐渐建立起稳定的商业模式；也探讨了国内外主流内容平台的不同生态，以及在流量时代，内容创作者如何平衡“真实”与“吸引力”。郭队还毫不避讳地分享了当年汽车媒体、公关公司和车评人之间的微妙关系，以及现在新人做自媒体签约平台可能面临的利与弊。

我们也一起回顾了汽车行业这些年的重大变化——从燃油车向新能源转型，到后疫情时代用户行为的改变。如今他定居海外，依然坚持做内容创作，继续与中文互联网保持连接。

如果你对内容创业、自媒体、汽车行业或者在海外坚持热爱这些话题感兴趣，这期节目一定不容错过！

-01:25 嘉宾自我介绍

-06:50 汽车自媒体的三垂（垂直类媒体）是怎么做起来的？现在的情况又是什么样？

-12:00 怎么玩转国内外自媒体平台？他们的主要区别是什么？

-15:20 消费者会不会在当下的流量时代接收不到真实和有用的信息？

-17:10 当年的汽车媒体，公关公司和车评人之间的关系到底是怎么样的？

-21:25 自媒体的玩法？怎么赚钱？

-28:30 自媒体新人和公司签约有什么利弊？

-30:10 如果现在想开始做汽车自媒体，应该如何开始？

-38:55 得屌丝者得天下

-46:50 从新能源车的崛起到后疫情时代，汽车行业近几年的变化

-56:00 搬到海外以后如何坚持做自媒体？

In this week’s episode, we’re joined by a very special guest — Landry, who was once my French teacher, but now works in managing game development at a global gaming company. His journey is anything but linear, and that’s exactly what makes it so inspiring.

Landry shared how his background in teaching not only opened doors for him to live and work around the world but also laid the foundation for a bold career pivot — first into visual effects, and eventually into gaming. We talked about what it was like to start over in a new industry, the transferable skills he brought with him from the classroom, and how he navigated self-doubt and steep learning curves along the way.

If you’ve ever considered making a big career change — especially one that feels like a leap into the unknown — Landry’s story will offer both practical insight and emotional reassurance. Tune in for a conversation about reinvention, resilience, and the unexpected ways our past experiences can shape our future paths.

-01:45 guest introduction, From teaching to gaming

-03:07 What brought you to Canada?

-6:40 Teaching French enabled me to move around the world

-10:30 What made you realize you wanted to do something other than teaching?

-12:50 How did you bridge the gap from teaching to visual effects?

-16:20 Did you feel behind or feel anxious when you had to start from the bottom, entering a new industry?

-18:50 How did you get to your current job, into gaming?

-22:15 What was the steepest learning curve in the world of gaming?

-26:30 How did you bring teaching and Project management mindset into your current work?

-29:30 Why live in Vancouver instead of Montreal?

-36:00 What was something you believed earlier in your career, but you do not believe in anymore?

-40:15 What would you say to your past self when you were still a teacher?

-44:00 What would you tell someone who is thinking about making a big career change?

在本期节目中，我们聊了一个轻松又带点反讽的主题：如何在职场中活用“渣男原则”求生存。别误会，我们不是鼓励大家当“职场渣男”，而是借用这个概念，来重新理解在高压、复杂的职场环境中，如何更聪明、更有策略地保护自己、推动工作、避免内耗。

我们围绕三大“渣男法则”展开：该主动时主动、不拒绝但不主动、不负责但有边界感。从什么时候该冲在前面、什么时候该学会沉得住气，到如何识别老板“画饼”陷阱、应对每件事都“紧急”的职场环境，我们结合真实场景和自身经历，聊了很多职场中的灰度策略。

希望这一期能帮你在“卷”与“躺”之间，找到一条既不内耗又不失去掌控感的职场生存之道。毕竟，做好划桨的人就已经很不错了，至于船往哪儿开，有时候真的不是你能决定的。

-1:20 什么是职场渣男原则？

-3:08 什么时候该主动？

-5:25 什么时候不该主动？

-7:50 “主动”应该是“主动让老板的工作更简单”

-9:50 大包大揽什么都会到最后很容易burn out

-12:00 遇到要升职的时候老板让你先多干多做，这种时候应该怎么办？

-16:30 怎么理解职场渣男原则二之不拒绝？

-20:20 什么时候应该拒绝？又该怎么拒绝？

-24:00 如果在老板看来每件事情都很urgent，应该怎么办？

-27:10 怎么解释职场渣男原则之三不负责？怎么不负别人的责？

-38:00 做好划桨的人，至于船往哪儿开是你管不了的

In this episode, we sit down with Sonia, a Canadian finance professional working for a U.S.-based company while living in Canada. In today’s complex economic and political climate, cross-border work has become more common, but it also brings unique challenges and considerations.

Sonia shares how she landed her role with a U.S. company, what it means to be a Canadian CPA working under a different system, and how taxation, compensation benchmarks, and even travel have evolved in this new normal. We also dive into how recent political tensions and macroeconomic shifts are influencing her work, her industry, and the broader future of cross-border collaboration.

From tax implications to borderless work ideals—and even what she’d say if she had a chance to meet President Trump—this episode offers a fascinating look at the reality of working across countries in a rapidly changing world. Tune in for a timely and insightful conversation.

-1:10 Guest Introduction

-2:00 How did you start working for a US company while being in Canada?

-5:40 Is it easy for a Canadian CPA to work for a US company?

-8:00 What is the tax implication?

-10:20 is it easy to travel around these days?

-15:00 Do you get a compensated benchmark against CAN or the US?

-17:50 How does the current political environment affect your job? Or your industry?

-22:15 How do your US co-workers react?

-29:10 What do you foresee the impact on the Macro economy as a finance professional?

-32:15 What can we do to minimize the impact of tariffs?

-33:50 From the business perspective, would it be better if people could work without borders?

-38:00 Different mentalities between workers in Canada and the US

-41:30 If you were able to connect with President Trump, what would you say to him?