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Itay Peled (Project Perception) and Yuri Diogenes (Defender for Cloud) on the two sides of AI in security: using AI to defend, and securing the AI everyone is deploying. Recorded live at Workplace Ninja Summit 2026 with Frans Oudendorp and Alex Verboon.
In this episode
- Why "AI for security" and "security for AI" are different problems that you can't solve separately
- Exposure management for agents: an agent that was never meant to be internet-facing can still be reachable through an attack path
- Prompt injection and indirect prompt injection as the big threat to agents, and why MITRE ATLAS is worth knowing
- How attackers use AI today: more scale, and digging deeper than they could before
- Agent sprawl: start with an inventory through AI security posture management, and give every agent an identity in Entra so Conditional Access applies
- Agent 365 as the control plane, Defender as the security view, and why data classification has to be in place before you point an agent at SharePoint
- Project Perception is read-only today: it recommends and explains, and a human takes the action
- Careers: admins and analysts won't be replaced but will need new skills, and why soft skills and in-person networking still matter
Chapters
00:00 Welcome: Itay Peled and Yuri Diogenes
01:52 AI for security vs. security for AI
04:55 Exposure management for AI agents
06:37 Prompt injection and MITRE ATLAS
09:13 How attackers use AI today
10:24 Agent inventory and agent identities
13:07 Agent 365, Defender and data protection
17:55 Human in the loop: when the agent is wrong
19:08 Will AI replace admins and analysts?
25:06 Yuri's 35 books, soft skills and networking
29:56 What Itay wants asked at the AMA
Guests
Itay Peled – Microsoft Security Research, working on Project Perception, Microsoft's agentic SOC
Workplace Ninja Summit 2026: Project Perception / agentic SOC · Threat landscape · Microsoft Security AMA
Yuri Diogenes – Microsoft, customer experience engineering for Defender for Cloud and exposure management
Workplace Ninja Summit 2026: AI-SPM & Threat Detection · Proactive Security Posture Management
Hosts
Frans Oudendorp & Alex Verboon
Recorded at Workplace Ninja Summit 2026 in Baden, Switzerland.
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The Ninja BE organizing team — Nicky, Kenny, and Dieter — take the stage to explain what the Ninja BE user group is all about: its mission, community, and what members can expect from future events.
📍 Recorded live at the Ninja BE User Group Event, June 4, 2026 (Belgium)
#NinjaBE #UserGroup #Community #ITCommunity #Belgium
Joeri Kumbruck and Jon Jarvis explore the world of Windows 365 and Azure Virtual Desktop (AVD), covering the latest features, use cases, and best practices for deploying cloud PCs and virtual desktop environments in the modern workplace.
📍 Recorded live at the Ninja BE User Group Event, June 4, 2026 (Belgium)
#Windows365 #AVD #AzureVirtualDesktop #CloudPC #Microsoft365 #NinjaBE
Michael Mardahl exposes the hidden "SSO Tax" — the extra fees organizations pay for security features that their identity provider already includes. This deep dive shows how to get more value out of your Microsoft Entra investment and cut redundant security tooling from your stack.
📍 Recorded live at the Ninja BE User Group Event, June 4, 2026 (Belgium)
#SSOTax #MicrosoftEntra #IdentityManagement #SSO #CyberSecurity #NinjaBE
Kim Oppalfens and Tom DeGreef break down Windows Defender Application Control (WDAC), the Appcontrol.ai platform, and Microsoft's App Control for Business. A practical look at application allowlisting and how organizations can lock down what runs on their endpoints.
📍 Recorded live at the Ninja BE User Group Event, June 4, 2026 (Belgium)
#WDAC #AppControl #Appcontrolai #WindowsSecurity #Intune #NinjaBE
Rudy Ooms and Jens duFour dive into Endpoint Privilege Management (EPM) at the Ninja BE Event in Belgium. Learn what EPM is, why removing local admin rights matters for security, and how to implement least-privilege access without breaking user productivity.
📍 Recorded live at the Ninja BE User Group Event, June 4, 2026 (Belgium)
#EPM #EndpointPrivilegeManagement #Microsoft #Intune #ITSecurity #NinjaBE
In this episode, Peter sits down with Lior Bela from Microsoft - recorded live at the MVP Summit in Redmond. Lior pulls back the curtain on what Microsoft is bringing to the Workplace Ninja Summit 2026 in Baden, Switzerland.
Expect a full Microsoft crew spanning Intune, Windows, Windows 365 and Security. Round tables, focus groups and direct product feedback sessions - giving you real access to the engineers and PMs behind the tools you work with every day.
This is your chance to help shape the future of Microsoft's workplace products.
🎟️ Tickets: https://e.runevents.net/workplace-ninja-summit-2026/checkout📅 Baden, Switzerland | September 2026
#WorkplaceNinjaSummit #Microsoft #Intune #Windows365 #MVPSummit #Endpoint
🥷 Speaker Spotlight | Workplace Ninja Summit — Baden, September 2026
Peter sat down with Gerry Hampson at the Microsoft campus in Redmond to talk about what's coming to Baden this September.
Gerry is a long-time endpoint management specialist and has attended every single Workplace Ninja Summit since the very first edition in 2020 — and this year is no different.
In this episode, Gerry shares what to expect from his sessions:- Global Secure Access — what it means in practice- Entra Private Access as a real VPN replacement- Intune troubleshooting from actual field projectsNo theory. No fluff. Real projects, real challenges, real solutions.
As Gerry puts it: Baden is a great location, great atmosphere — and you learn from the brightest people in Europe and beyond. That reputation is built on speakers exactly like this.
🎟️ Tickets available now → https://e.runevents.net/workplace-ninja-summit-2026/checkout🌐 More info → https://summit.wpninjas.global/Subscribe & follow the show for more speaker spotlights ahead of Baden 2026.
The last of our pre-approved speaker announcements — and it's a great one to finish on.
Frans catches up with Sune Thomsen in the Workplace Ninja Studio. Sune is a Windows 365 MVP from Denmark — the very first Windows 365 MVP in the program — and a Nerdio value professional with a background stretching back to MDT and SCCM.
Sune talks about what he's bringing to Baden this September — Windows 365 security, architecture, real-world stories from the field and lots of live demos. He also shares why he loves the Ninja Summit format and why inspiring the next generation of IT pros is something he genuinely cares about.
As Sune said — hopefully the demo gods will be with us! 😄
The Workplace Ninja Summit is Europe's premier event for endpoint management and security professionals, featuring 125+ sessions covering the full Microsoft security and endpoint stack. No marketing — just real content for IT pros and architects.
🔗 More info & tickets: https://summit.wpninjas.global
Dominiek Verham has been speaking at the Workplace Ninja Summit for two years - and he's back for more in Baden this September.
In this episode, Frans catches up with Dominiek remotely in the Workplace Ninja Studio. Fresh off NerdioCon, Dominiek talks about what's happening in the Windows 365 and AVD space right now, what organizations are still struggling with when it comes to maturity levels, and what he's bringing to the stage in Baden.
Expect sessions on Windows 365, AVD, networking and securing your cloud PC environment. And as Dominiek said - with a bit of humor thrown in!
If you see him in Baden - walk up and say hi. That's what it's all about.
The Workplace Ninja Summit is Europe's premier event for endpoint management and security professionals, featuring 125+ sessions covering the full Microsoft security and endpoint stack. No marketing - just real content for IT pros and architects.
🔗 More info & tickets: https://summit.wpninjas.global
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