On this episode of Wow Ergonomics, Graham Coath flies solo (well, almost) while Steven romps across the countryside—though he does eventually dial in from his very own mobile ergonomic setup! Luckily, Graham is joined by an absolute powerhouse in the world of workplace wellness: Carol Deasy.

Carol’s background as a physio turned global ergonomics expert gives her a unique take on why the phrase “I’ll just get the laptop out” might be one of the biggest threats to our posture in the modern world. From her viral LinkedIn post on airplane work setups to helping tech giants and local shops alike rethink the way their teams work, Carol drops knowledge, laughs, and some very real truths about our working habits.

They cover:

• Why most people still don’t use a laptop riser (even when working for hours at coffee shops or on trains)

• The cultural and legal differences in how ergonomics is valued across the globe

• Why flexibility and adjustability beat the “one-size-fits-all” mindset in product design

• The power of habits—and how influencers might hold the key to changing the future of workplace wellness

• Soft seating, burnout, remote work isolation, neurodiversity, and the dreaded 24/7 work culture

• Why “ergonomic” doesn’t always mean what you think it does (yes, we’re looking at that folding metal chair)

It’s informative, passionate, funny, and full of practical insights you’ll want to action straight away (but maybe not at 9PM from your bed, okay?).

👉 Oh, and if you’ve ever wanted to see Carol do ergonomic reaction videos to some of the worst “desk goals” setups online… that might just be coming soon.

🎧 Listen now wherever you get your podcasts or visit wowergonomics.com for past episodes.

Hashtag deskgoals? Let’s make sure those goals don’t lead to a chiropractor.