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What if the most powerful thing you could do for your leadership isn't sounding polished - but sounding like you?
Sandra Bargeman spent her life on stage, but it wasn't until she stepped into the spiritual closet that she found her real voice. As an actor, interfaith minister, and voice coach, Sandra teaches that authentic presence doesn't come from being bigger or louder -it comes from summoning the courage to be vulnerable. We talk about what it means to be an "edge walker"- someone who lives at the intersection of who we've been, who we are, and who we're becoming. It's messy there. It's also where the most creativity lives. Sandra's wisdom on staying present through loss, embracing the seasons of life, and helping others step into their truth is the kind of conversation that stays with you.
In this conversation, you'll discover:
0:00 Authentic Voice Defined 0:35 Welcome Sandra Bargeman 1:29 Edge Walker Explained 5:01 Edge Effect Origin 7:24 Comfort Zone Edges 8:56 Born Performer 12:32 Called to Ministry 15:05 Mission Discovered 16:54 Good Girl vs Wild 19:34 Marriage as Archetype 22:15 Relationship Mirror 25:29 The B.I.G. Approach 31:21 Courage Is Muscle 33:48 Grief & Shadow Work 37:45 Seasons of Darkness 42:08 Staying Present Through Death 46:03 Embracing Life's Cycle 48:30 Pieces Must Fall 49:16 Where to Find Sandra
RESOURECS
Want to learn more about Sandra Bargeman and her work? Connect with her here:
https://key2unlock.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michele-phillips-9409707
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/write-your-outcome/id1819724499
https://www.facebook.com/129170793830944/
https://www.instagram.com/energizewithmichele/
https://www.amazon.com/Michele-Phillips/e/B00EHZ38T4
https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001K8KSQC
The words we speak to ourselves carry more weight than we often realize. They can light a fire within us or slowly dim our spirit. On this episode of Write Your Outcome, I'm joined by my dear friend and colleague Dr. Denise Williams, author of Wellspring of Words, to explore how our internal dialogue shapes everything—our energy, our relationships, and our ability to lead with intention.
Denise brings decades of wisdom as a counselor, educator, and organizational leadership expert. Together we unpack what it truly means to become intentional about the words we use, starting with the ones we whisper to ourselves in moments of frustration or doubt. Her book, inspired by Proverbs 18:4, reminds us that words are like deep waters—they can nourish or overwhelm.
If you've ever caught yourself saying "I'm so clumsy" or "I'm not good enough," this conversation will meet you right where you are. Denise shares practical steps for slowing down, paying attention, and replacing harsh self-talk with words wrapped in kindness. We also talk about the ripple effect of blessing others—even when it's hard—and how small shifts in language create lasting change.
Whether you're leading a team, navigating a difficult season, or simply wanting to treat yourself with more grace, this episode offers grounded wisdom for the journey. Because the words we choose truly do write our outcome.
What you'll discover:
· Why the source of your words matters as much as the words themselves
· How to interrupt negative thought loops and replace them with truth
· The science behind how positive words affect your brain and even your DNA
· Why kindness toward yourself is the foundation for kindness toward others
· Practical exercises to begin shifting your internal dialogue today
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Words Light a Fire 00:18 I See You 00:33 Finding Joy in Anxiety 01:02 Welcome Dr. Denise Williams 04:19 The Wellspring Meaning 05:49 Two Stories of Survival 08:15 Practice Before Game Day 09:48 Start With What's True 11:02 Look How Capable You Are 13:17 Being Intentional and Deliberate 15:28 Slowing Down to Notice 17:30 A Marriage Transformed 20:59 Peter Plants a Seed 23:58 Why Some Don't Believe 26:59 Strut in Your Heels 29:27 Pleasant Words Heal Bones 33:43 Bless Your Neighbor 41:05 Habits for Brain Health 46:15 Look for the Joy 47:58 Where to Buy the Book 49:13 Stop Saying You're Fine
Books & Resources Mentioned:
https://key2unlock.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michele-phillips-9409707
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/write-your-outcome/id1819724499
https://www.facebook.com/129170793830944/
https://www.instagram.com/energizewithmichele/
https://www.amazon.com/Michele-Phillips/e/B00EHZ38T4
https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001K8KSQC
Who is writing your life? Is it fear, old habits, or your need for approval? It's a question I've been sitting with for years, and today I want to go deeper into what it truly means to write your outcome. It's not about forcing results or controlling every variable. It's about consciously choosing who you are becoming in the process.
When I was at a workshop with Jack Canfield back in 1997, he said something that has never left me: "The goal isn't the goal. It's who you become in the process." That single idea has shaped my entire approach to life, business, and spirituality. We get so obsessed with the outcome—the job, the money, the relationship—that we forget we're writing a much more important story along the way.
In this solo episode, I'm exploring the three layers of this work: habits that change your behavior, energy that sustains the change, and consciousness that transforms everything. I'll share why two people can use the exact same strategy and get completely different results, and why your state always comes before your strategy. I'll also talk about the approval trap, the control trap, and how to recognize when fear has picked up the pen.
Here's what you'll discover in this episode:
You are writing your outcome every single hour of every single day. The only question is: who's holding the pen?
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Who's Holding the Pen? 01:09 Beyond Goals and Control 01:56 Who You Become 04:40 When Life Doesn't Cooperate 07:00 Personality and Soul 11:05 Flip the Script 14:07 Spirituality and Perspective 18:48 State Before Strategy 22:53 The Approval Trap 26:29 The Control Trap 28:14 When Fear Takes Over 32:30 Habits, Energy, Consciousness 39:05 Conscious Course Correction 45:33 Who Are You Becoming? 49:33 The Wake-Up Call
Books & Resources Mentioned:
https://key2unlock.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michele-phillips-9409707
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/write-your-outcome/id1819724499
https://www.facebook.com/129170793830944/
https://www.instagram.com/energizewithmichele/
https://www.amazon.com/Michele-Phillips/e/B00EHZ38T4
https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001K8KSQC
I've always believed you don't leave your soul in the car when you go to work. This week, I'm joined by someone who has lived that truth in the most remarkable way — Dr. Mamta Bhatt, known as the joyful scientist.
Dr. Bhatt spent over two decades building an executive career in research and product development for Fortune 50 companies, holding a PhD in macromolecular science and completing executive education at Wharton and Harvard Medical School. Then one morning, she couldn't get out of bed. What followed was a years-long journey through chronic fatigue, hormonal imbalances, and digestive issues that conventional medicine couldn't resolve.
Her search led her to study food as medicine, Ayurveda, naturopathy, and eventually to time in a monastery, where she discovered something profound: you can be physically unwell and still choose joy. That moment changed everything.
Today, Dr. Bhatt helps high achievers reclaim their health, energy, and vitality through her RESET protocol — a customized approach rooted in restful sleep, nutrient-dense foods, stress reduction, targeted exercise, and positive thinking. She calls herself a recovering high achiever, and she understands the cost of running on adrenaline instead of alignment.
In this conversation, you'll discover:
● The early warning signs your body gives before it screams
● Why sugar is the most inflammatory thing you can consume
● A simple alternate nostril breathing practice to calm your nervous system
● The concept of "taste rehab" and how to reset your palate
● Why joy and physical healing can coexist
● The power of one minute of gratitude to interrupt your brain's problem-seeking default
Dr. Bhatt's wisdom is both practical and profound. Whether you're running on empty or simply want to live more consciously, this episode will meet you exactly where you are.
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 The Joy of Finding Yourself 00:32 Welcome and Introduction 01:13 Dr. Mamta Bhatt's Story 05:00 Early Warning Signs 06:46 The Monastery Journey 09:45 Reconciling Science and Spirit 10:13 A Humbling Opening Process 12:40 Running on Adrenaline 14:11 The RESET Protocol 18:11 Customizing Your Wellness 18:49 The Three S's for Sleep 22:05 Taste Rehab Explained 24:05 Alternate Nostril Breathing 26:53 Real Food vs. Fake 29:36 Joy and Physical Healing 33:03 Simple Steps to Begin 33:48 Training Your Brain for Joy 36:22 Dr. Bhatt's Offerings 38:13 Final Reflections and Resources
Reascoursces
https://key2unlock.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michele-phillips-9409707
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/write-your-outcome/id1819724499
https://www.facebook.com/129170793830944/
https://www.instagram.com/energizewithmichele/
https://www.amazon.com/Michele-Phillips/e/B00EHZ38T4
https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001K8KSQC
Learn more about Dr. Mamta Bhatt
· Dr. Mamta Bhatt's Website: www.drmamtabhat.com
· Dr. Mamta Bhatt's Email: [email protected]
· Dr. Mamta Bhatt's Phone/Text: 813-235-3724
· Dr. Mamta Bhatt's Instagram: @thejoyfulscientist
· Book: Recipes for Joy by Dr. Mamta Bhatt
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I have idolized this woman for years. I've read every book she's written, been coached by her through one of the hardest seasons of my life, and she even included me in her book Rewire for Wealth. So having Barbara Huson on the show feels like a full-circle moment I still can't quite believe happened.
Barbara is a leading authority on women, wealth, and power. She's the bestselling author of seven books, including Prince Charming Isn't Coming, Secrets of Six-Figure Women, Overcoming Underearning, Sacred Success, and Rewire for Wealth. She's also a financial therapist and the founder of The Wealth Connection.
In this conversation, we go deep into the truth she taught me years ago: problems with money are never about money. They're about our fear of and ambivalence toward power. Barbara shares how she lost nearly everything to her ex-husband's gambling, rebuilt her life, and discovered that real wealth has nothing to do with the amount you make—it's about wellbeing.
Here's what you'll discover:
If money has ever felt like a language you can't speak, or if you've quietly believed you're just not "good with money," this episode will meet you exactly where you are and show you another way.
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Wealth and Wellbeing
00:40 Welcome Barbara Huson
01:16 Meeting a Mentor
03:57 Barbara's Response
04:16 Prince Charming Isn't Coming
04:49 Raised for Rescue
05:14 The Gambling Marriage
07:20 The Vegas Birthday
08:20 Secrets of Six-Figure Women
08:54 Chronic Underearning
10:07 What Shifted
10:14 Six-Figure Surprises
11:52 The Four-Pronged Process
12:01 Inner Work of Wealth
13:04 Facing Money Fears
13:07 Money Is About Power
14:54 The Deeper Work
18:20 Defining True Wealth
19:20 A Quick Pause
20:47 Conditioning Around Money
22:29 Do What You Fear
25:32 Small Risks, Big Shifts
26:41 Trusting the World
27:29 Sacred Success Origins
29:52 Adding the Divine
30:32 Rewire for Wealth
31:03 Losing Interest and Surrendering
36:21 Divine Downloads
37:18 Working With Resistance
38:07 Inner Child Work
38:20 Understanding Trauma
40:02 Defensiveness as Signal
41:22 Moving Through Defensiveness
42:47 Seeing It Differently
43:59 Three Money Practices
47:10 Sacred Success Retreat
48:26 Retreat Details
48:56 Closing Gratitude
49:43 Final Thoughts
Resources
https://key2unlock.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michele-phillips-9409707
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/write-your-outcome/id1819724499
https://www.facebook.com/129170793830944/
https://www.instagram.com/energizewithmichele/
https://www.amazon.com/Michele-Phillips/e/B00EHZ38T4
https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001K8KSQC
Books by Barbara Huson:
Resources Mentioned:
I used to think busyness was proof I was important, needed, successful. Then I realized I was just recreating the same crazy pace I left corporate for—and calling it ambition.
In this solo episode, I'm asking the question I had to ask myself: Why am I so busy? Because a life dominated by urgency, hurry, and constant activity is incompatible with well-being. It just is.
I share what I've learned about the nervous system, the difference between urgent and important, and why rushing through everything—even the beautiful things—robs us of our own lives. I also get honest about grief, guilt, and the moment I finally became okay with where I am.
If you've been running on empty, waiting for permission to slow down, consider this your invitation. Ease isn't laziness. It's evidence of alignment.
Listeners will discover:
Why busyness is not proof of your worth (and what actually is)
The warning signs you're in overdrive—and what to do about them
How to distinguish urgent from important in daily life
Why your soul speaks in silence and what it's trying to tell you
Simple practices to begin living with more intention today
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Why Are You So Busy?
00:24 A Full Calendar, Empty Life
01:28 Busyness Is Not Proof
03:14 Speed Kills Enjoyment
07:38 The Fisherman's Wisdom
09:58 Activity vs. Accomplishment
11:44 Learning How to Be
16:51 Blender Head Returns
17:33 The Future Walk
18:29 Warning Signs of Overdrive
26:04 What Are You Grieving?
27:38 Afraid of Dying with Music Inside
29:07 Your Soul Speaks in Silence
31:43 Busyness Keeps You from Your Life
46:26 The Quality of Your Attention
49:15 Ease Is Not Laziness
50:43 Don't Wish It Were Easier
52:08 Closing: Choose Your Style
RESOURCES
https://key2unlock.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michele-phillips-9409707
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/write-your-outcome/id1819724499
https://www.facebook.com/129170793830944/
https://www.instagram.com/energizewithmichele/
https://www.amazon.com/Michele-Phillips/e/B00EHZ38T4
https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001K8KSQC
Some conversations feel less like an interview and more like sitting around a fire, listening to a master storyteller remind you of what's true. This episode with John St. Augustine is one of those. As a conscious leader, it's easy to get caught up in the logical, the planned, and the predictable—but John's life is a testament to what happens when you make room for the things you can't explain.
His journey is a wild one, from a recurring dream that wouldn't leave him alone, to an unplanned 300-mile walk, to finding himself in the basement of a concert hall receiving a life-altering message from John Denver. He is a master of weaving the practical with the profound, showing us that trusting your intuition isn't about passivity—it's about taking grounded action, even when you don't have the full picture.
In this deeply personal conversation, we connect the dots of his incredible life and the lessons it holds for how we lead our own lives and businesses.
Listeners will discover:
ü The exact moment John Denver told him "your voice matters" and how that single question changed the entire trajectory of his life.
ü The critical difference between responding and reacting, and how to create space for the path to become clear.
ü Why he traded a definition of "success" for one of "significance," and how that shift can lead to more meaningful work.
ü The story of how he almost said "no" to working with Oprah, and the powerful question she asked that changed his answer.
ü How to look back at your own life to find evidence of your "inner GPS," so you can trust the next intuitive hit.
Timestamps
00:00 The Bare Bulb in the Basement: John Denver's Challenge
00:40 Introducing a Masterful Storyteller and Creative Partner
03:52 Early Influences: How WGN, Teddy Roosevelt, and Cousteau Shaped a Life
07:24 A Recurring Dream and the Call to Walk to Chicago
11:21 Moving from Resistance to Response: How the Universe Gets Your Attention
13:32 The Great Mystery: The Choice That Changed Everything
15:58 The Zen of Letting the Mud Settle: Responding vs. Reacting
18:17 Meeting John Denver and the Ripple Effect of a Single Question
24:58 From Cat Box to Center Stage: Saying Yes to the Call
28:14 Shifting from Success to Significance
29:31 The Power of Connecting the Dots: Michele's Serendipitous Story
31:01 Finding Evidence of Your Inner GP
36:03 The Oprah Orbit: Almost Saying No to the Biggest Opportunity of His Life
46:04 Full Circle with Jack Canfield: A Masterclass in Taking Action
48:39 What's Next: Audiobooks, Storytelling, and a Bucket List Anthology
Resources
https://key2unlock.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michele-phillips-9409707
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/write-your-outcome/id1819724499
https://www.facebook.com/129170793830944/
https://www.instagram.com/energizewithmichele/
https://www.amazon.com/Michele-Phillips/e/B00EHZ38T4
https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001K8KSQC
What if anxiety, disconnection, or emotional overwhelm aren't only symptoms to eliminate—but signals asking you to look deeper?
In this episode of Write Your Outcome, Michele Phillips sits down with Dr. Amy Robbins, clinical psychologist, host of Life, Death & the Space Between, and pioneer of spiritually informed therapy, for a fascinating conversation at the intersection of psychology, spirituality, science, intuition, and consciousness.
Amy shares the unexpected journey that transformed her understanding of healing. After the death of her beloved aunt, a series of profound experiences—including vivid visitations and messages she couldn't easily explain—challenged everything her traditional psychology training had taught her. Rather than abandoning science, Amy began exploring how psychology and spirituality might actually belong together.
In this episode, Michele and Amy explore:
Amy also shares why she believes psychology has become so focused on symptom reduction that we've sometimes lost sight of the soul. Her work isn't about rejecting evidence-based psychology. It's about widening the lens and asking what our anxiety, depression, grief, or disconnection may be inviting us to understand about ourselves.
And after years of exploring near-death experiences, mediumship, spirituality, consciousness, and the mysteries we can't always explain, Amy has discovered something unexpected: she's not afraid of dying—she's afraid of missing this life.
Because writing your outcome isn't only about deciding where you want to go. Sometimes it begins by becoming curious about the parts of yourself you've been taught to ignore—and trusting that there may be more to who you are than what you can see or prove.
About Dr. Amy RobbinsDr. Amy Robbins is a clinical psychologist and Director of Mental Health at Beyond in Chicago. For nearly two decades, she has helped people heal by bridging mind, body, and spirit through traditional psychotherapy, spiritual intuition, and energy psychology. She is also the host of Life, Death & the Space Between, a top spirituality podcast with more than two million downloads, where she explores consciousness, near-death experiences, mediumship, spirituality, and what these mysteries can teach us about living more fully.
Amy is also pioneering Spiritually Informed Therapy, a framework designed to help clinicians incorporate spiritual awareness alongside evidence-based psychology while honoring the individual beliefs and experiences of their clients.
Connect with Dr. Amy RobbinsWebsite: DrAmyRobbins.com Instagram: @dramyrobbins Podcast: Life, Death & the Space Between For Clinicians: Spiritually Informed Therapy training and therapist directory Workshop: Decoding Everyday Magic, a 90-minute introduction to recognizing signs and synchronicities in everyday life
What if the life you've been working so hard to build isn't actually the life you want?
In this deeply personal solo episode of Write Your Outcome, Michele Phillips shares the defining moments that took her from following society's version of success to building a career and life rooted in alignment. From losing her corporate position to discovering her calling as a trainer, launching her own business, and turning down lucrative opportunities that didn't feel right, Michele looks back at the moments that taught her to follow the energy instead of following someone else's script. Michele challenges the relentless pursuit of more: more money, more productivity, more status, and more consumption. Instead, she asks what might change if we measured success by alignment, meaning, relationships, peace, and the freedom to consciously choose how we want to live.
Through stories from her own career and nearly 30 years of coaching and leadership work, Michele explores how to recognize when you've drifted off course, listen to the inner wisdom pointing you back, and make choices that feel true to who you are. Because living consciously doesn't mean getting every decision right. It means noticing when you're out of alignment and being willing to realign.
If you've been checking all the boxes but still wondering whether there's something more, this episode is an invitation to reconsider what success means to you.
Because you're never as stuck as you think you are. You always have a choice, and real success may have less to do with becoming what the world expects and more to do with becoming who you truly are.
More from Michele Phillips
What if the rise of artificial intelligence isn't something to fear, but an invitation to remember the intelligence that has always lived within us?
In this episode of Write Your Outcome, Michele Phillips welcomes Neerja Bhatia, leadership emergence coach, TEDx speaker, Forbes Coaches Council member, and creator of the Living Intelligence Framework. Neerja has spent more than two decades helping leaders move beyond unconscious patterns and conditioned ways of operating into greater awareness, presence, and authentic human connection.
Together, Michele and Neerja explore the ideas behind Neerja's book, The Great Remembering: Leading in the Age of AI, A Leadership Fable, and why our increasingly technology-driven world is calling us to reconnect with the wisdom of the heart, body, intuition, and consciousness.
In this episode, you'll discover:
Why external success can still leave us feeling empty
How conditioning and labels disconnect us from who we really are
What "Living Intelligence" means in the age of AI
Why conscious leadership moves beyond control, power, and the bottom line
How witnessing your thoughts can create greater clarity and freedom
A simple way to use the elements of water, earth, air, fire, and space to reconnect with yourself
Why AI may actually be inviting humans to become more human
Neerja challenges us to question the thoughts and identities we've mistaken for truth and reconnect with the intelligence that exists beyond what can be measured. As she reminds us, you are not your thoughts, and the fear that keeps you gripping the familiar is simply another thought you can learn to witness.
If you've been questioning where humanity fits in an AI-driven future, this conversation offers a hopeful perspective: perhaps the future isn't asking us to compete with machines. Perhaps it's asking us to remember what machines can never replace.
About Neerja BhatiaNeerja Bhatia is a leadership emergence coach, TEDx speaker, member of the Forbes Coaches Council, and creator of the Living Intelligence Framework. For more than two decades, she has helped leaders move beyond unconscious patterns and conditioned ways of operating to lead with greater coherence, moral clarity, presence, and authentic human connection. She is the author of The Great Remembering: Leading in the Age of AI, A Leadership Fable, which explores the relationship between artificial intelligence and the distinctly human wisdom we risk forgetting.
Connect with NeerjaBook: The Great Remembering: Leading in the Age of AI, A Leadership Fable Website: Neerja directs listeners to her website for additional resources, including her essay on how perception shapes what we see and her technique for working with the elements. LinkedIn: Follow Neerja on LinkedIn Book Availability: Amazon
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