Writer's Voice

Writer's Voice

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Writer's Voice episodes

  • Against Tech Oligarchy: Clarissa Redwine, JS Tan & Noam Scheiber on Worker Power

    Writer’s Voice: compelling conversations with authors who challenge, inspire, and inform.

    What happens when tech workers challenge the companies they once believed in?

    This week Writer’s Voice talks with Clarissa Redwine and JS Tan about Against Tech Oligarchy. They helped build the tech worker movement, and they’re candid about both its victories and the limits of its organizing strategies. We talk about Google’s Project Maven, the Kickstarter union drive, and why winning union recognition doesn’t automatically give workers the leverage they need.

    “The only way to hold our bosses and our companies and institutions accountable is by having pressure from below.” — Clarissa Redwine

    Then I revisit my conversation with Noam Scheiber about Hollywood writers, AI and the growing solidarity among college-educated workers. He also recommends Redwine and Tan’s book.

    “Their book is called Against Tech Oligarchy, Worker Resistance in the World’s Most Powerful Industry. And I learned a lot from reading a galley of that book and I’ve learned a lot from the work over the years.” — Noam Scheiber

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    You might also like: Noam Scheiber on the Mutiny of the New Working Class, Maria Adelmann on Adjunct Labor

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    Clarissa Redwine and JS Tan, Against Tech Oligarchy

    Clarissa Redwine and JS Tan talk about Against Tech Oligarchy and the movement they helped organize.

    Drawing on their experiences at Kickstarter and Microsoft, they explain how tech workers’ belief in their employers’ missions gave way to conflict over the companies’ actions.

    We discuss Google’s Project Maven, public pressure campaigns, retaliation, and the turn toward legally recognized unions.

    Redwine and Tan also examine the limits of strategies they once championed. When software keeps generating revenue without workers at their desks, a strike requires a different understanding of leverage.

    Our conversation asks how workers can test their power, defend their wins, and connect workplace organizing to larger questions about AI and corporate control.

    Key topics:

    • Tech companies’ democratic promises and workers’ disillusionment
    • Google Project Maven and employee opposition to military AI
    • Kickstarter organizing and management resistance
    • Public pressure campaigns and union recognition
    • Why tech strikes pose different challenges
    • Finding leverage across jobs, teams and business models
    • AI, solidarity and defending organizing victories
    • Noam Scheiber, Mutiny

      In this archived excerpt, I talk with Noam Scheiber about Mutiny and the insecurity facing college-educated workers. We begin with Hollywood writers, whose once-stable careers became more precarious as streaming shortened employment and disrupted established paths into the profession.

      Scheiber explains how that insecurity, combined with fears of AI replacement, helped sustain the writers’ strike. We then explore growing worker consciousness in the tech industry and the possibility of solidarity between workers with and without college degrees.

      He closes by recommending Clarissa Redwine and JS Tan’s Against Tech Oligarchy, connecting this discussion of economic insecurity to the first segment’s examination of organizing and worker power.

      Listen to the full interview

      59 min
    • Malavika Kannan on Unprecedented Times and Lauren Acampora on The Animal Room

      Writer’s Voice: compelling conversations with authors who challenge, inspire, and inform.

      What happens when the old rules stop working?

      This week, two works of fiction look at the relationships that shape us, and the systems of power we often carry within ourselves.

      First, Malavika Kannan talks about Unprecedented Times, her coming-of-age novel about Rishi, a queer Indian American student whose arrival at Stanford coincides with a crisis of faith in activism, institutions and the American promise itself.

      As 2020 transforms the world around her, Rishi wrestles with family expectations, friendship, sex, consent, political disillusionment and her desire to become a writer. Kannan talks about Gen Z’s growing refusal to follow rules that no longer seem to deliver what they promise.

      “One of the main themes that I was trying to explore in this book and that I think about a lot as a person is the question of agency.” — Malavika Kannan

      Then Lauren Acampora talks about The Animal Room, her connected collection of stories about the many ways human beings love, use, protect, fear and exploit animals.

      But these stories are also mirrors. They ask us to look at ourselves, and at what care, empathy and responsibility mean in our relationships with other people.

      “The dominance isn’t working out so well.” — Lauren Acampora

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      Love good coffee? Want to support Writer’s Voice? Head on over to Larry’s Coffee using this LINK, and you’ll earn $30 for the show!

      You might also like: Short Stories by George Saunders & Jennifer Haigh, Vauhini Vara, THIS IS SALVAGED

      Tags: Malavika Kannan, Unprecedented Times, Lauren Acampora, The Animal Room, Writer’s Voice, Gen Z fiction, queer fiction, Indian American fiction, coming of age novel, human animal relationships, Francesca Rheannon

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      Malavika Kannan, Unprecedented Times

      Malavika Kannan talks about Unprecedented Times, her funny, searching novel about Gen Z, climate anxiety, queer identity and finding your own way.

      Key Topics

      • Gen Z and political disillusionment
      • climate activism
      • queer identity
      • Indian American families
      • immigration
      • friendship and romantic boundaries
      • utopian communities
      • sexual consent and agency
      • Lauren Acampora, The Animal Room

        Lauren Acampora talks about The Animal Room, interconnected stories exploring what our relationships with animals reveal about care, power, privilege and empathy.

        Key Topics

        • human-animal relationships,
        • animal rights
        • mental health
        • dominance versus collaboration
        • conservation
        • animal exploitation
        • 1 hr
        • Joseph Kelly on The Biggest Lie and America’s Fascist Roots

          Writer’s Voice: compelling conversations with authors who challenge, inspire, and inform.

          American fascism didn’t begin with Donald Trump, or even with the rise of fascism in Europe. Its roots reach deep into our own history.

          America’s road to fascism began with a big lie about who counts as fully human. That’s what historian Joseph Kelly reveals in his book, The Biggest Lie: The Prehistory of American Fascism, 1818–1915. Kelly traces a long struggle between two visions of the country. One rests on the Declaration’s promise of equality. The other claims that people aren’t equal, that white people are superior to Black people and therefore have the right to dominate them.

          We follow that ideology from the Missouri crisis through pseudoscientific racism, Indian removal, slavery and the violent overthrow of Reconstruction. Kelly explains how the Ku Klux Klan, the Red Shirts, Jim Crow and The Birth of a Nation used fear, myth and racialized sexual panic to defend white rule.

          We also look at a road not taken, multiracial democracy and class-based political cooperation. Those possibilities were repeatedly attacked by elites who weaponized fears of replacement and Black political power.

          Kelly connects domestic white supremacy to American empire in Cuba and the Philippines. He argues that fascism is a corruption of democracy, built when dissent is silenced, violence is celebrated and allegiance to the tribe and its leader replaces truth. That history, he says, can help us understand the battle over democracy today.

          Follow us on Bluesky @writersvoice.bsky.social and subscribe to our Substack. Or find us on Instagram @WritersVoicePodcast.

          Love good coffee? Want to support Writer’s Voice? Head on over to Larry’s Coffee using this LINK, and you’ll earn $30 for the show!

          You might also like: Aran Shetterly on The Greensboro Massacre, Paul Kix on the fight to end Jim Crow

          Tags: Joseph Kelly, The Biggest Lie, American fascism, white supremacy, racism, slavery, Reconstruction, Jim Crow, replacement theory, multiracial democracy

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          Joseph Kelly, THE BIGGEST LIE
          Key topics:
          • The conflict between equality and white supremacy
          • The Missouri crisis and the defense of slavery
          • Pseudoscientific racism
          • Andrew Jackson and Indian removal
          • The destruction of Reconstruction
          • The Ku Klux Klan and the Red Shirts
          • Racial and sexual panic
          • Ida B. Wells and the truth about lynching
          • American imperialism in Cuba and the Philippines
          • The Birth of a Nation
          • Fascism, political lies and loyalty to the leader
          • 1 hr 3 min
          • Victoria Hetherington + Silvia Park on Human-AI Relationships

            Writer’s Voice: compelling conversations with authors who challenge, inspire, and inform.

            A machine that never judges us may also teach us to forget how human relationships work.

            Writer’s Voice talks with Victoria Hetherington about The Friend Machine, her investigation into people who seek friendship, therapy and love from AI. We explore loneliness, simulated care, privacy, emotional dependence and the extraordinary power of the corporations building these systems.

            “That’s probably my primary concern, that moral de-skilling might occur.” — Victoria Hetherington

            Then, we revisit our 2025 conversation with Silvia Park about her sci-fi novel Luminous. Set in a reunified future Korea, the novel follows a family whose estranged siblings include two humans and a robot.

            “What I really question is, if robots exist in this world, would they serve as an outlet or would they amplify our dark urges?” — Silvia Park

            Together, these books grapple with salient questions arising from AI and monopoly corporate power. Can programmed affection become love? And what does how we treat A.I. entities say about ourselves?

            Follow us on Bluesky @writersvoice.bsky.social and subscribe to our Substack. Or find us on Instagram @WritersVoicePodcast.

            Love good coffee? Want to support Writer’s Voice? Head on over to Larry’s Coffee using this LINK, and you’ll earn $30 for the show!

            You might also like: Bruce Holsinger on AI’s Moral Dilemmas, Ray Nayler on AI and Autocracy

            Tags: Victoria Hetherington, The Friend Machine, Silvia Park, Luminous, AI companions, artificial intelligence, AI friendship, AI therapy, sentient robots, AI ethics, AI privacy, Writer’s Voice

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            Victoria Hetherington, The Friend Machine

            What happens when an AI companion becomes your closest friend, your therapist, or even your romantic partner?

            Victoria Hetherington’s The Friend Machine: On the Trail of AI Companionship investigates why people form powerful emotional bonds with chatbots.

            Hetherington finds that the real story isn’t whether AI is conscious. It’s why so many of us are ready to treat it as if it were.

            In our conversation, We talk about loneliness, simulated care, AI therapy, privacy, and the risks of replacing difficult human relationships with frictionless digital ones. We also ask what guardrails are needed when a handful of enormously powerful companies control technologies that can learn our most intimate secrets.

            Victoria Hetherington is a journalist, broadcaster, and author whose work explores technology, intimacy, and what it means to be human in an AI-driven world.

            Silvia Park, Luminous (re-air)

            Set in a reunified Korea, Luminous follows a family with a unique dynamic: two human siblings and their robot brother Yo-Yo.

            The novel explores complex relationships between humans and robots, examining questions of love, memory, and what constitutes consciousness.

            Silvia Park Interview: Key Topics
            • How AI and robotics shape a reunified Korea post-war
            • The role of robots in family structures—caretakers, siblings, even romantic partners
            • The central mystery of Yo-Yo, a robot who defies expectations and may possess a soul
            • The ethical dilemmas of AI companionship and whether love can be programmed
            • Morgan’s struggle with creating a robotic boyfriend who loves her—but is he real?
            • Jun’s identity as a transgender war veteran and his struggle with his cybernetic body
            • How society’s treatment of robots reflects historical patterns of oppression and dehumanization
            • The dark undercurrent of ritualized violence against AI and its parallels to human history
            • The philosophical question: If AI surpasses us in intelligence and empathy, what happens next?
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