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Writing History After Gaza — with Omer Bartov
Audio 13
“The license that Israel, the land of the victims, has long enjoyed and abused may be expiring. The sons and daughters of the next generation will be free to rethink their own lives and future, beyond the memory of the Holocaust; they will also have to pay for the sins of their parents and bear the burden of the genocide perpetrated in their name,” wrote the Israeli-American Holocaust and genocide scholar Omer Bartov in April 2025, during the genocidal starvation campaign that Israel enacted against the Palestinian people in Gaza. In conversation with Berlin Review editor Tobias Haberkorn, Bartov discusses the extraordinary consequences of October 7 and the destruction of Gaza for the world’s moral order.
Topics covered:
00:03:55 – Ceasefire in Gaza and bad faith actors
00:11:36 – How does one assess genocide and what is the role of historians?
00:18:00 – The history of “genocide” vs. war crimes and crimes against humanity, The Nuremberg Trials
00:26:26 – Post-war impunity for Nazi crimes in Germany vs. impunity today
00:33:50 – The Holocaust, other Genocides and Gaza—useful analogies and false equivalences
00:48:20 – The Nakba, Zionism—and the Gaza Genocide
00:59:55 – Audience Questions
Read Omer’s writing at Berlin Review: “Infinite Licence” (No 12) and “A State of Denial” (No 15)
Support & Subscribe to Berlin Review at blnreview.de/en/abo
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By Tobias Haberkorn, Samir Sellami et al.Audio 13
“The license that Israel, the land of the victims, has long enjoyed and abused may be expiring. The sons and daughters of the next generation will be free to rethink their own lives and future, beyond the memory of the Holocaust; they will also have to pay for the sins of their parents and bear the burden of the genocide perpetrated in their name,” wrote the Israeli-American Holocaust and genocide scholar Omer Bartov in April 2025, during the genocidal starvation campaign that Israel enacted against the Palestinian people in Gaza. In conversation with Berlin Review editor Tobias Haberkorn, Bartov discusses the extraordinary consequences of October 7 and the destruction of Gaza for the world’s moral order.
Topics covered:
00:03:55 – Ceasefire in Gaza and bad faith actors
00:11:36 – How does one assess genocide and what is the role of historians?
00:18:00 – The history of “genocide” vs. war crimes and crimes against humanity, The Nuremberg Trials
00:26:26 – Post-war impunity for Nazi crimes in Germany vs. impunity today
00:33:50 – The Holocaust, other Genocides and Gaza—useful analogies and false equivalences
00:48:20 – The Nakba, Zionism—and the Gaza Genocide
00:59:55 – Audience Questions
Read Omer’s writing at Berlin Review: “Infinite Licence” (No 12) and “A State of Denial” (No 15)
Support & Subscribe to Berlin Review at blnreview.de/en/abo