This one of the craziest episodes of television we can remember seeing in a long time. Obvious bullying by producers, terrible acting by Wells, and already so much crying!!! Us trying to keep our debrief brief (if you will) still ended up being an hour and a half! Don't worry, our week 2 recap is on the way and isn't nearly so long. 

It's not 🎶almost paradise🎶, IT IS PARADISE!!!! Boy howdy have we missed the beach. This episode had everything you could ever ask for: Wells, margaritas, someone faking their birthday, and a boy who made his own life a mess pre-paradise by getting too cocky. It also had things we didn't ask for: a disgusting looking hot tub, Johnny rapping, and a man's full penis. And this is just the first episode! Consider us buckled up because we are along for the ride, and we are so excited to take you with us! 

Alright you guys, you got us. We did an absolutely shit job recapping this season, by which we mean we did not do it at all. In our defenses they don't get the Bachelorette in Europe, which is where Grace was for most of the season, and Liv is also very busy and hot and cool doing her own stuff. We promise to do better for Bachelor In Paradise. We mostly feel confident in that promise because BIP is actually fun, unlike the joyless, time suck that was this season. In this episode we discuss all the problematic themes with the finale, the disappointing choice of a new bachelor, and basically have a bunch of fucking fun because we love doing this podcast and have missed all of us spending this time together!!! Stick with it till the end for a little preview of BIP and some speculations about who we might see smooching it up on the beach!!! 

Thanks for your undying patience with us, and we hope this was worth the wait. xoxo <3 

WE HAVE TEA. Hi everyone, guess what, this recording is LATE because Grace decided to be a jerk and go on a vacation and also Liv is now editing the episodes so please feel free to direct all complaints to her, but keep in mind that she currently has 335 unread text messages. This episode was a wild ride, from literally no one (including the producers) being prepared to run this season, to a man absolutely not following forklift PROCEDURE, to an extremely embarrassing and brutal elimination, this may yet prove to be the MoST dRamAtIC sEAsOn EvEr?!!!

PLEASE RATE REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE AND FOLLOW US ON INSTA THANK U <3

Hey hey hey - it's time for our favorite part of the pre-season! Making snap judgements about the people we are about to watch on TV for the next 10 weeks based on nothing but approximately 3 facts about them and how we feel about their face. And of course we couldn't do it without the expert insight of Mason Lok. He brings to the table absolutely no knowledge of the bachelor franchise (he didn't even know who Rachel and Gabby were) and a thrilling level of chaotic neutral to balance out Grace's lawful good and Liv's chaotic evil.  

Join us as we go through the extensive list of men who will be vying for Rachel and Gabby's hearts beginning on July 11th, and decide who does and doesn't floss, among other very important things.  

If you want to follow along with us on this journey - here is the ABC cast list with the photos and fact that we used to make our judgements. 

We're baaaaaack!!! Our sincere apologies for the long LONG hiatus, we knew we were going to have to take a break when Grace got jaw surgery, but no one could have predicted the shit show that followed. As the hardware has finally been mostly removed from her mouth, and she has been given the go ahead to speak without clenching her teeth together, we were finally able to get recording again. However, so many big things have happened in the world of the bachelor franchise since we last recorded that we didn't feel like we could just jump right back in. Consider this episode a warm up for us and for you - it gave us a chance to get back into the swing of things, and it'll catch you up on everything we haven't been updating you on. Now we can move forward into Rachel and Gabby's season without needing to get hung up on a discussion about Becca and Thomas or Becca and Hayley or any of the other Becca's who updated their relationship status in the last 2.5 months! 

You're telling us we've been doing this podcast for two years??? Is this a joke?? We have now recapped 7 full seasons of this show (6 if you don't count Listen to Your Heart, which maybe we shouldn't...) and done plenty of fun stuff during the off seasons. The second year of Wrong Reasons brought us Bachelor Bookclub and The Question Game (feat. Mason Lok) - two of our absolute favorite types of episodes. We have had so much fun continuing to get creative and weird with this podcast, and have plenty more fun ideas for this coming year. As always we are enormously grateful for anyone who chooses to tune in and listen to us obsess over reality TV every week. We are so honored and feel so special that you are interested in spending that time with us. So cheers to you guys, cheers to us, and cheers to another year of Wrong Reasons! 

xoxo - Liv & Grace

We are literally so proud of ourselves for keeping this episode under two hours. Who knows why we thought it would be a good idea to recap these two episodes in just one evening, but in our defense we did not think it would literally be the most dramatic finale in bachelor history. They tell us that every year, we had no reason to actually think it was true! This finale was full of twists and turns, we gasped out loud, we shouted at the screen, we flipped on Clayton multiple times, it was a real roller coaster. If you are not planning on watching we do recommend going back and just watching Gabby's speeches, and everything that Clayton's dad said. Clayton is the dumbest man on the face of the planet, this wild season is finally over - bring on the bachelorettes!!! 

We thought about doing two episodes, but let's be real - the Women Tell All didn't need a whole hour long discussion. It was almost entirely yelling about arguments we've already seen play out with no new developments. It did however, bring us the joy of remembering Claire from night one who claimed she hated Clayton so just took full advantage of the open bar instead. She is the only one who has been bringing the correct energy to this season from the start. Then we moved on to our discussion of fantasy suites which was dominated by talking about Susie and Clayton's date. Why you ask? Oh just because Clayton finally revealed his true colors as a super manipulative and unkind trash human and Susie dodged the biggest bullet in history. This is officially a Clayton hate podcast now (it kinda felt like on before, but it's official now). 

Has there ever been a more boring, less confrontational hometowns episode? Probably not. I mean I know we're always saying we hate unnecessary drama, but jesus they gotta give us SOMETHING. We have never seen the parents be so throughly unfussed with this whole bachelor situation, though to be fair it did mostly seem to be because they were coming at it from the position of "she's in charge of what makes her happy and we trust her to make good decisions" about their daughters, which we do appreciate. The biggest conflict this episode was between the two of us because Liv (an insane person) found Clayton's freak out on the obstacle course endearing, while Grace (sane and with good taste) got the strongest ick of her life from it. Please weigh in and let us know your own personal experience watching Clayton try to cross those wobbly blocks.