After a lively conversation about road trips and pee breaks, Tom and Will offer advice to a 15-year old young man who is in over his head trying to manipulate his weight.

Will puts his expertise on display as he talks the young man through some of the technical aspects of calorie counting and cautions him against any kind of significant restriction. He also drops a fat deuce on the notion of the BMI index as an indicator of health.

Tom echoes Will’s concerns about the potential for negative health outcomes and emphasizes that young men need to be OK with being a bit “fluffy” as they grow into their bodies.