Jon apologizes for how he sounds in this episode, he was having mic troubles we discovered only during post-production. But outside of that, we continue the series of episodes recapping 2023 with our Year in Review report. This week, Aliza Johnson from the Talos Threat Intelligence & Interdiction team comes on the show to talk about data theft extortion. She shares why her team saw such a spike in this type of activity in 2023, what can be done to stop it, and which ransomware actors are pivoting to this tactic.