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This week Mark and I began to think about the next musician Yes wanted to sign up, this time as a live associate member of the band for the 1994 Talk Tour. We talk about Billy's connections to Yes members, his involvement with Union and lots of other topics. You'll also find out what record we have chosen to listen to next week for some clues as to Billy's suitability to join Yes at this point.

In addition, we have time for a two pence segment about the recent sale of Yes' Atlantic back catalogue to Warner Bros. and what this means for the band and the fans.

* What did Yes know about Billy at this point?

* What about him attracted their attention?

* Why did they want a sixth member of the band for this tour?

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Jon Anderson's conceptual epic, Olias of Sunhillow, is under the microscope this week.

* Does this album live up to its amazing reputation?

* How does Jon Anderson get on playing all the instruments?

* Does Olias feel like a complete work or a bit bolted together?

Mark's and Kevin's copies of Olias of Sunhillow:

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Olias of Sunhillow by Jon Anderson

Record sleeve front

Record sleeve back

Side 1 label

Side 2 label

Olias logo

SACD

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Inner case

Back

Booklet

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German CD

Front cover

Back cover

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As I’m sure you know we lost another giant of the rock world this week. Jeff Beck was one of the most influential guitarists of all time and I’m sure Yes music would sound very different - or possibly wouldn’t exist without the influence of the great man. Rest in Peace.

This week we had a great conversation with Joe Cass who you may well know is the drummer for Yes Tribute Total Mass Retain. He told us stories of his connections with Yes members and the aims of his band who have confirmed two 2023 concerts so far - visit https://www.totalmassretainband.com/ for all the information - they put on an amazing evening of Yes music and if you haven’t met Joe yet, you’ll hear just what a generous and thoughtful musician he is from our chat.

https://youtu.be/iGojXIz3AkA

* What are Yes Tribute Band Total Mass Retain trying to achieve?

* Who is in the band?

* What are some of Joe's fondest memories of Yes?

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New Year and time to look forward, rather than back. Join Mark and me talking about what's coming up based on two sources:

* http://bondegezou.blogspot.com/ - companion site to http://www.bondegezou.co.uk/wnyesm.htm from the legendary Henry Potts

* https://www.facebook.com/reel/1255122348371376 from the knowledgeable and erudite Jon Dee

* What Yes and Yes related albums can we look forward to in 2023?

* Is anyone touring?

* Who is publishing a fascinating book about Tormato?

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It's time to enjoy listening to The Lexicon Of Love this week as we look for clues as to why Yes wanted Trevor Horn to return as producer for 90125. To be fair, that's not an especially difficult task as his fingerprints are all over this brilliant, era-defining work of pop genius. It's not prog but it's glorious music.

* What Trevor Horn influences can be heard on this album?

* Is the production any good?

* Is it obvious why Yes wanted Trevor back?

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Also, it's time to wish all listeners, Producers and Patrons all best wishes at this festive time of year. Whatever you celebrate in December or even if you don't celebrate anything Mark and I hope you have a wonderful time as the year changes to 2023. Thank you for all your support and kindness in 2022!

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After a couple of weeks of illness I’m delighted to say I’m now almost 100% and back to the YMP. I’d like to thank everyone who has sent kind wishes - they are very much appreciated.

This week we delve into the reasons why Yes might have wanted Trevor Horn back in the fold for 90125.

* Who wanted Trevor back?

* What were his special skills?

* Did he want to go back?

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Mark and I spent a very enjoyable week listening to CTTE and Relayer - and why not? In time honoured fashion we have recorded our thoughts independently and then we meet up to criticise each other’s ideas. Not really. We do, however, indulge in the futile but nevertheless enjoyable process of ranking the albums against each other and coming out with a winner. Will you agree with our assessments? The sense of anticipation could be cut with a proverbial hacksaw.

* Is it possible to rank these albums after listening to them?* Why would anyone want to?* Go on then, which one is better?

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Relayer

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This week Mark and I embark upon another inevitably unjustifiable escapade - the rating of two classic Yes albums against each other. If it wasn’t fun we wouldn’t do it but it keeps us off the streets at least. This time we have decided to pit Close To The Edge against Relayer and you can play along as well. In part 1 we bang on about the similarities and differences between the records and then next week we will report back on our findings after listening carefully to the albums. Please do add your own thoughts to the show notes for both weeks’ episodes.

* Which album is 'better'?* What are the main differences and similarities?* Why would you want to do this?

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This week we met the delightful Chris Welch who wrote one of the most important books about Yes, Close To The Edge - The Yes Story. Journalist for Melody Maker, Kerrang and many other publications, Chris has known the band from its earliest days and we very much enjoyed talking to him about those days in the early 70s as well as his trip to Advision to see the band recording Tormato. It was a  great conversation so we hope you enjoy it as well.

* What was it like in London in the early 70s?* Did punk kill prog?* How was the atmosphere in Advision?

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Chris' Melody Maker Studio report and Tormato review:

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This week we are off into the weeds once again, this time with Tim Durling as our guide. As the originator of Tim’s Vinyl Confessions, he is ideally placed to tell us more about the 8 track tapes that have been released over the years by Yes and we discover a wealth of interesting facts about the much-maligned media format which, as you may remember, was the basis of the ill-fated Birotron Rick Wakeman championed and part-funded in the mid-late 70s.

We would be delighted to see photos of any Yes 8 track tapes you have in your collection so please do add those to the comments on the show notes for this week’s episode.

* Why were 8-track cartridges so popular?* Did they sound any good?* Did the format cause any problems for the transfer of records?

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