Yoram Hazony interviews Rod Dreher, columnist at The American Conservative, and one of the leading voices of American Christianity today. He is author of the best-seller “The Benedict Option,” and has a new book out: “Live Not By Lies.” They discuss Rod’s break with the Catholic Church, the takeover of American liberal institutions by woke ideology, how life under the new Marxism resembles life under Communist rule, why the liberals are capitulating, what conservatives need to do to resist, and where nationalism fits in. NatConTalk is produced by the Edmund Burke Foundation and White House Writers Group. You can find out more about EBF's national conservatism project at nationalconservatism.org.

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