Recorded on: 20 July 2025

Keenan and Halsted both search for meaning in perspectives, not answers. They share their experiences with organized religion, trying to find community, and how aging can make people less curious.

And then their tangent boat carries them away on the currents of Caves of Qud and Game of Thrones and Clair Obscur: Expedition 33.

Not-footnotes:

• “Why Does My Mind Keep Thinking That?” - The Ezra Klein Show (Ezra Klein-lovin’ subscribers only, sorry lol)
• Search Engine - “The Psychic Question”
• Dr. Mark Epstein has been a guest on a lot of podcasts and has written some books.
• Caves of Qud and Game of Thrones and Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
• Sunk cost fallacy
• “Past Lives”

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