To kick off the episode, with EightShapes closing doors, Richard and Joe discuss the life expectancy of agencies against the back drop of their 18 year run. Would owners be happier and make better decisions if they embrace the idea that client services are finite businesses that end? A services business is fulfilling, and exhausting. Ending an agency doesn't have to be a failure if owner's embrace a business lifespan attitude from the beginning. Let's get into it.