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Join hosts Tim Tannert, CEO of BetterRx and Certified EOS Implementer, and Josh Roberts, CEO of USA Talent Solutions, as they sit down with visionary entrepreneur Benny Fisher for one of the most unfiltered stories yet.

From being fired six times from the same dealership to getting raided by police and hit with two felonies, Benny’s journey has been anything but straight. He opens up about hitting rock bottom—living out of his car, overdosing on fentanyl, and nearly losing it all—only to rebuild from the ground up as the founder of Big Fish Contracting, one of Pittsburgh’s fastest-growing roofing companies.

Benny shares how knocking on doors led to his first million in sales, what it felt like to sell his business after nearly a decade, and why losing his younger brother to a drug-related shooting became the catalyst for him to share his story more openly. Along the way, he reflects on EOS, leadership, addiction, faith, and what it truly means to build a life worth living.

If you’ve ever doubted whether redemption is possible—or just want to hear how a fired car salesman turned felonies into five-star reviews—you won’t want to miss this one.

📚 Books & Resources Mentioned
Rocket Fuel — Gino Wickman & Mark C. Winters
Traction — Gino Wickman
The EOS Life — Gino Wickman
Shine — Gino Wickman & Rob Dube
Miracle Morning — Hal Elrod

👉 Listen in for stories about overdoses, golf course phone calls that change everything, and how Benny went from a $1,200 debt to selling a multimillion-dollar company.

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Join hosts Tim Tannert, CEO of BetterRX and Certified EOS Implementer, and Josh Roberts, CEO of USA Talent Solutions, as they dive into the wins, failures, and the crazy leadership stories you truly can’t make up.

This week’s guest, David McGlennen, CEO culture expert and executive coach, brings over three decades of experience in the insurance and wellness industries before launching Impact Leadership Consulting. David works with leadership teams to design intentional cultures that actually get lived out—not just framed on a wall.

From getting fired 10 months into a new city with a family of seven, to hiring his own son as his bookkeeper (and getting called out for overspending), David shares candid stories about vulnerability, accountability, and growth. He also talks about why CEOs have to become teachers of their values, how to have the tough conversations leaders often avoid, and what it means to build a family culture at work without the unhealthy baggage.

If you’ve ever wondered how to hold people accountable to values, or what it feels like when your kid calls out your leadership flaws—it’s all here.

📚 Books & References Mentioned
Never Split the Difference — Chris Voss
Intentional Living — John Maxwell
Halftime: Moving from Success to Significance — Bob Buford

👉 Tune in for stories about fired CEOs, family feuds over budgets, and why being vulnerable might be the most powerful leadership move you’ll ever make.

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Join our hosts Tim Tannert, CEO of BetterRx and Certified EOS Implementer, and Josh Roberts, CEO of USA Talent Solutions, as they dig into the wins, failures, and wild stories from leaders who’ve lived them.

This episode features Rich Lunak — entrepreneur, investor, and former Group President at McKesson Corporation. From building robots in a two-bedroom apartment to selling his startup to a Fortune 50 company, to mentoring the next generation of founders through Innovation Works, Rich has seen it all.

Rich shares how wearing “every hat” as a young founder shaped his leadership, what it takes to avoid common traps in scaling a business, and why job security is about building marketable skills—not the logo on your paycheck. He also opens up about hilarious demo-day disasters (including a prototype that literally smoked mid-pitch), the hard lessons of hiring the wrong leaders, and his perspective on AI’s disruptive future.

If you’ve ever wondered how to grow from scrappy founder to seasoned CEO—or just need to hear a story about how a smoking robot still landed a major deal—this one’s for you.

📚 Books Mentioned
The Lean Startup — Eric Ries
The Four Steps to the Epiphany — Steve Blank
Steve Jobs — Walter Isaacson
Elon Musk — Walter Isaacson
The Everything Store — Brad Stone
Shoe Dog — Phil Knight
Einstein: His Life and Universe — Walter Isaacson
The Wright Brothers — David McCullough

👉 Listen now and subscribe for more stories you truly can’t make up.

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Join our hosts Tim Tannert, Certified EOS Implementer, and Josh Roberts, CEO of USA Talent Solutions, as they celebrate the wins and, more hilariously, the failures we’ve made as leaders. 

Each episode of the You Can’t Make This Shit Up Podcast, we’ll be interviewing successful, inspiring leaders about some of the people issues they have faced, and what they’ve learned in their leadership journey. 

This episode, Doug Smith, Assistant Executive Director of Light of Life Rescue Mission and founder of L3 Leadership, shares his inspiring journey from a troubled past to becoming a passionate leader and mentor. 

Thanks for joining us for Season 3! Stay tuned for more stories and leadership insights in future episodes.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
01:12 Doug's Background and Career at Light of Life
01:56 Leadership Development and Personal Transformation
02:47 Family Life and Podcasting Journey
03:52 Podcasting Tips and Consistency
06:05 Overcoming Insecurities in Interviewing
07:04 Doug's Origin Story and Turning Point
15:45 Mentorship and Its Impact
30:27 Daily Routines and Systems for Success
37:37 Impact of Light of Life and Final Thoughts
39:50 Heartfelt Stories of Transformation
41:54 Faith's Role in Recovery
43:24 From Client to Staff: Hutch's Journey
45:49 The Power of Mentorship and Community
46:27 Leadership and Vulnerability
51:02 Personal Struggles and Therapy
55:57 Balancing Life's Demands
57:45 Reflecting on Leadership and Future Goals
01:05:30 Overcoming Dyslexia and Negative Labels
01:18:01 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

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Join hosts Tim Tannert and Josh Roberts as they welcome Bob Stein, Executive Director and Associate Vice Chancellor at the University of Pittsburgh's Institute for Entrepreneurial Excellence, to the 'You Can't Make This Shit Up' podcast. 

In this episode, Bob shares his remarkable journey from running a gaming community at 13 to being hired by Microsoft. He discusses leadership lessons, the importance of perseverance, and the challenges faced by family-owned businesses. 

Listen in as Bob talks about his passion for supporting entrepreneurs, organizing impactful events, and his impressive 950-day running streak that exemplifies his dedication and grit. Stay tuned for more inspiring stories and leadership insights.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
01:04 Bob Stein's Background and Early Career
01:49 Transition to University of Pittsburgh
03:12 Entrepreneurial Journey and Family Influence
06:22 Steel City Con and Entrepreneurial Ventures
07:43 Supporting Entrepreneurs at University of Pittsburgh
09:29 Challenges and Trends in Business
23:47 Leadership and Mentorship Insights
24:55 Running and Personal Discipline
32:34 Navigating Mentorship and Personal Growth
33:27 The Role of Scouting in Leadership Development
36:38 Family Business Dynamics and Challenges
42:16 Event Planning and Speaker Selection
48:44 The Resilience of Entrepreneurs
57:44 Supporting Local Businesses
58:54 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Join our hosts, Tim Tannert, Certified EOS Implementer, and Josh Roberts, CEO of USA Talent Solutions, as they celebrate the wins and, more hilariously, the failures we’ve made as leaders. 

Each episode of the You Can't Make This Shit Up Podcast, we’ll be interviewing successful, inspiring leaders about some of the people issues they have faced, and what they’ve learned in their leadership journey. 

This episode, Greg Furer, CEO of Beratung Advisors, shares his entrepreneurial journey, highlighting challenges in hiring, the importance of casting a clear vision, and the transformational impact of the EOS system both in business and personal life. 

Thanks for joining us for Season 3! Stay tuned for more stories and leadership insights in future episodes.

00:00 Introduction and Welcome
01:29 Greg's Background and Entrepreneurial Journey
05:17 Lessons in Leadership and Hiring
11:08 The Importance of Company Culture
15:24 Challenges and Realities of Hiring
26:09 Vision Casting and Employee Engagement
27:40 Family Road Trip Chaos
28:14 Motivating the Team
29:42 The Power of Vision
31:22 Implementing EOS
34:48 Personal and Professional Integration
51:10 Advice for Young Entrepreneurs

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Join our hosts Tim Tannert, Certified EOS Implementer, and Josh Roberts, CEO of USA Talent Solutions, as they celebrate the wins and, more hilariously, the failures we’ve made as leaders.

Each episode of the You Can’t Make This Shit Up Podcast, we’ll be interviewing successful, inspiring leaders about some of the people issues they have faced, and what they’ve learned in their leadership journey.

This episode, Will Host shared some unforgettable landlord horror stories and the key lessons he learned while handling difficult situations.

Thanks for joining us for Season 2! Stay tuned for more stories and leadership insights in future episodes.

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Join our hosts Tim Tannert, Certified EOS Implementer, and Josh Roberts, CEO of USA Talent Solutions, as they celebrate the wins and, more hilariously, the failures we’ve made as leaders.

Each episode of the You Can’t Make This Shit Up Podcast, we’ll be interviewing successful, inspiring leaders about some of the people issues they have faced, and what they’ve learned in their leadership journey.

This episode, we talked to Thomas Bloom, who shared his journey of stepping into leadership for the first time. From navigating day-one nerves to embracing authenticity, Thomas’s candid stories highlight the ups and downs of building trust and leading with confidence.

Thanks for joining us for Season 2! Stay tuned for future season releases. 

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Join our hosts Tim Tannert, Certified EOS Implementer, and Josh Roberts, CEO of USA Talent Solutions, as they celebrate the wins and, more hilariously, the failures we’ve made as leaders.

Each episode of the You Can’t Make This Shit Up Podcast, we’ll be interviewing successful, inspiring leaders about some of the people issues they have faced, and what they’ve learned in their leadership journey.

This episode, we talked to Pallavi Golla, founder of Lark Adventurewear, who shared an unbelievable story of her shipment being hijacked by pirates. From navigating this high-stakes crisis to the valuable lessons she learned about empathy, Pallavi’s journey will have you on the edge of your seat and ready to tackle your next big challenge.

Thanks for joining us for Season 2! Stay tuned for future season releases.

Send us Fan Mail

Join our hosts Tim Tannert, Certified EOS Implementer, and Josh Roberts, CEO of USA Talent Solutions, as they celebrate the wins and, more hilariously, the failures we’ve made as leaders.

Each episode of the You Can’t Make This Shit Up Podcast, we’ll be interviewing successful, inspiring leaders about some of the people issues they have faced, and what they’ve learned in their leadership journey.

This episode, we talked to Matt Caiazza, who shared an outrageous story about how a fake scandal nearly cost him his job. From navigating office drama to handling miscommunication, Matt’s journey offers a mix of humor, shock, and invaluable lessons on maintaining trust and transparency as a leader.

Thanks for joining us for Season 2! Stay tuned for future season releases.