You Keep Me Sane

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  • Rejection Sensitivity: When Rejection Feels Like Proof You’re Not Enough

    Episode Overview

    Why can a delayed reply, a critical comment or a relationship ending feel so emotionally overwhelming?

    In this episode, we talk about rejection sensitivity — the tendency to strongly react to real or perceived rejection, criticism or exclusion.

    We explore why rejection can feel less like a single disappointing moment and more like proof that you’re unwanted, unimportant or not enough. We also look at how this can lead to overthinking, over-explaining, apologising, withdrawing or avoiding situations where you might be judged.


    In this episode, we discuss:

    • What rejection sensitivity can look and feel like
    • Why small moments can trigger such intense reactions
    • The connection between rejection, belonging and self-worth
    • Why logic often doesn’t calm the nervous system
    • How fear of rejection can quietly shrink your life
    • Separating what happened from what you made it mean
    • Pausing before reacting, explaining or seeking reassurance
    • Why being rejected is not the same as being unworthy

    Rejection will always hurt. The work isn’t to stop caring. It’s to stop treating other people’s responses as the final truth about who you are.



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    Links:

    • Download Enough - Our Self Worth Reset.
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    • Follow YKMS on FB https://www.facebook.com/YouKeepMeSanePod
    • Email us at  [email protected]

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    Disclaimer: 

    Remember, we’re two friends sharing our personal experiences and discussing everyday challenges. We’re not qualified coaches or therapists, and our content is for general information and supportive conversation only. If you need professional help, please seek advice from a licensed therapist.

    29 min
  • Optimisation Culture : Why We Never Feel Enough

    Every scroll tells us there is something else to improve - our body, sleep, health, productivity, appearance or mindset.

    In this episode, we talk about how self-improvement can quietly become another form of pressure, especially in midlife. When every part of life becomes something to fix or track, we stop feeling like people and start feeling like projects.


    We discuss:

    • Why wellness can feel like another full-time job
    • How tracking can disconnect us from our bodies
    • The difference between self-care and self-correction
    • Why accepting change is not the same as giving up
    • How optimisation can become conditional self-worth


    Takeaways:

    • You can care for yourself without constantly trying to fix yourself.
    • Your needs now may be different from ten years ago.
    • Rest does not need to be earned.
    • You can want to feel better without believing you are broken.
    • You do not have to be optimised to be worthy.

    If this resonated with you, please let us know. We love hearing your comments. You can email us at [email protected] or DM us on instagram @youkeepmesane.pod.


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    Links:

    • Download Enough - Our Self Worth Reset.
    • Follow YKMS Podcast on IG @youkeepmesane.pod  
    • Follow YKMS on FB https://www.facebook.com/YouKeepMeSanePod
    • Email us at  [email protected]

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    Disclaimer: 

    Remember, we’re two friends sharing our personal experiences and discussing everyday challenges. We’re not qualified coaches or therapists, and our content is for general information and supportive conversation only. If you need professional help, please seek advice from a licensed therapist.

    35 min
  • The Difference Between Who You Are and How You React Under Stress

    Episode Overview
    Have you ever caught yourself snapping, shutting down, feeling flat, or reacting in a way that doesn’t feel like you?

    In this episode, we talk about how stress can make us feel like we’ve become a different person - less patient, less warm, less fun, more defensive, more resentful, or simply unable to enjoy things we usually would.

    We explore the difference between someone’s personality and their stress response, especially when life has been stretching them for too long.

    This isn’t about excusing hurtful behaviour. Boundaries matter. Repair matters. But there’s a big difference between saying, “I’m a horrible person,” and saying, “I’m overloaded, and this is coming out sideways.”


    Key Discussion Points

    • How stress can make ordinary questions, plans, or requests feel like one demand too many.
    • Why overwhelm can change our tone, patience, humour, warmth, and ability to enjoy good things.
    • The difference between someone’s core character and how they behave when they’re anxious, overloaded, or dysregulated.
    • How shame turns stress into self-attack — especially when we start asking, “Why can’t I cope?” instead of “What am I carrying?”


    Listener Takeaways

    • The stressed version of you isn’t the whole of who you are.
    • Feeling snappy, flat, defensive, or withdrawn may be a sign your nervous system has been under pressure for too long.
    • Repair is more useful than shame. You can own your behaviour without turning it into your identity.
    • When we understand our own stress response, it can help us respond with more compassion to our children, partners, friends, and ourselves.


    Mentioned in This Episode
    If this conversation speaks to something deeper around self-worth, boundaries, shame, people-pleasing, or feeling like you’re never enough, we’ll pop the link to Enough in the show notes.

    It’s our self-worth guide and a simple place to start untangling some of these patterns.


    Join the Conversation

    Have you noticed stress changing the way you show up?

    Have you ever looked at yourself and thought, “This isn’t me”?

    Or have you seen someone you love become almost unrecognisable when they’re overwhelmed?

    We’d love to hear your thoughts. Send us a DM, leave us a voice note, or come and continue the conversation with us on Instagram.



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    Links:

    • Download Enough - Our Self Worth Reset.
    • Follow YKMS Podcast on IG @youkeepmesane.pod  
    • Follow YKMS on FB https://www.facebook.com/YouKeepMeSanePod
    • Email us at  [email protected]

    Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.youkeepmesane.com/subscribe/

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    Disclaimer: 

    Remember, we’re two friends sharing our personal experiences and discussing everyday challenges. We’re not qualified coaches or therapists, and our content is for general information and supportive conversation only. If you need professional help, please seek advice from a licensed therapist.

    28 min
  • Outgrowing Who You Were: The Midlife Identity Shift No One Talks About

    Episode Overview

    In this episode, we read a listener letter from Sarah, who describes something many women feel but rarely say out loud - the quiet sense of being “in between” versions of themselves.

    Life looks good on paper. Nothing is obviously wrong. But something doesn’t feel quite right either.

    We explore what happens when the roles we’ve held for years start to loosen, and instead of clarity, we’re met with questions. This is a conversation about identity, change, and why this stage of life can feel so unsettling - even when everything looks fine.


    Key Discussion Points

    • Feeling “in between” versions of yourself and why it’s more common than we think
    • The shift from being needed to having space - and what that brings up
    • Why finding your voice can feel unsettling, not empowering
    • Letting go of the pressure to have everything figured out


    Listener Takeaways

    • Feeling lost doesn’t mean something’s wrong - it often means something’s changing
    • You don’t need all the answers right now
    • This phase is less about certainty and more about discovery
    • You’re not alone in feeling this way


    Join the Conversation

    Have you ever felt like you’re in between versions of yourself?
    Not quite who you were, but not sure who you’re becoming?

    We’d love to hear from you.

    Send us a DM or email us at [email protected] - your story might help someone else feel less alone.



    Links:

    • Download Enough - Our Self Worth Reset.
    • Follow YKMS Podcast on IG @youkeepmesane.pod  
    • Follow YKMS on FB https://www.facebook.com/YouKeepMeSanePod
    • Email us at  [email protected]

    Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.youkeepmesane.com/subscribe/

    Hosts: Aileen Harvey & Julie Fahy

    See https://www.buzzsprout.com/privacy for privacy information

    Disclaimer: 

    Remember, we’re two friends sharing our personal experiences and discussing everyday challenges. We’re not qualified coaches or therapists, and our content is for general information and supportive conversation only. If you need professional help, please seek advice from a licensed therapist.

    18 min
  • Menopause, Self-Worth and the Moment You Stop Feeling Like Yourself

    Episode Overview
    In this episode, we’re joined by menopause practitioner Laura Lambe for a clear, reassuring conversation about what really happens to women during perimenopause, menopause and post-menopause.

    We talk about why so many women feel blindsided by this phase — the brain fog, fatigue, body changes, sleep issues, anxiety, low confidence, and the feeling that the old rules no longer work.

    Laura explains why this isn’t a personal failing. Your body is going through one of the biggest biological shifts it will ever experience, and many women are trying to navigate it with very little education, support or proper information.

    This conversation is about moving from confusion to clarity, understanding what your body is asking for, and remembering that you haven’t disappeared. You’re still in there.


    Key Discussion Points

    • Why so many women enter perimenopause or menopause feeling confused, unsettled and unsure of what’s happening in their body.
    • Why women are often told their bloods are “normal” or that they’re “too young,” leaving them questioning themselves.
    • How menopause can affect confidence, identity, mood, work, relationships and self-worth - not just physical symptoms.
    • The role of sleep, fatigue, gut health, protein, fibre, bone density, muscle mass and stress in this phase of life.
    • Why Laura encourages women to move from confusion to clarity before trying to fix everything at once.
    • How diet culture, under-eating, cutting carbs and over-exercising can catch up with women in midlife.
    • The loneliness many women feel when partners don’t understand the impact of menopause on mood, libido, energy and confidence.
    • Why Laura warns against the noise of menopause marketing, quick fixes and supplement overload.


    Listener Takeaways

    • You are not lazy because you’re exhausted.
    • Menopause is not just physical - it can affect how you see yourself.
    • If the old rules have stopped working, it may be because your body needs a different kind of support now.
    • Sleep and fatigue can affect everything: mood, motivation, brain fog, cravings and stress tolerance.
    • Proper information matters. So does filtering out the noise from social media.
    • Food, movement, rest, HRT, supplements and lifestyle changes can all be part of the toolbox, but there is no one-size-fits-all answer.
    • You would probably never call a friend lazy for struggling — so try not to speak to yourself that way either.
    • You haven’t lost yourself forever. You’re still in there.


    Join the Conversation

    This episode is such an important reminder that menopause isn’t just about hot flushes or periods stopping. It can affect how we feel in our bodies, how we show up in our relationships, how we work, how we parent, and how much we trust ourselves.

    We’d love to know:

    Have you ever felt like you stopped recognising yourself during perimenopause or menopause?

    Come and join the conversation with us on Instagram. We’d love to hear what this episode brings up for you.



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    BetterHelp makes it easy to find a therapist who suits your needs. Their online platform connects you with credentialed therapists, and if your first match isn’t the right fit, you can switch.

    Links:

    • Download Enough - Our Self Worth Reset.
    • Follow YKMS Podcast on IG @youkeepmesane.pod  
    • Follow YKMS on FB https://www.facebook.com/YouKeepMeSanePod
    • Email us at  [email protected]

    Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.youkeepmesane.com/subscribe/

    Hosts: Aileen Harvey & Julie Fahy

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    Disclaimer: 

    Remember, we’re two friends sharing our personal experiences and discussing everyday challenges. We’re not qualified coaches or therapists, and our content is for general information and supportive conversation only. If you need professional help, please seek advice from a licensed therapist.

    48 min
  • Joy Isn’t Gone - It’s Buried: How We Start Letting It Back In

    Episode Overview
    Why does joy feel harder to access in midlife - even when nothing is technically “wrong”? In this episode, we unpack that quiet heaviness so many of us carry and explore why joy can feel distant during this stage of life.


    What We Talk About

    • Why joy doesn’t disappear-it just gets buried under responsibility and mental load
    • How modern life (and being “always on”) keeps us stuck in stress mode
    • The guilt that can come with letting ourselves feel good
    • Finding joy again in small, everyday moments


    Listener Takeaways

    • You’re not broken if you don’t feel joyful - you’re likely just carrying a lot
    • Joy isn’t something you wait for; it’s something you allow in small ways
    • It might look different now - quieter, simpler, but still meaningful
    • Even a few minutes of something that feels like you can shift everything


    Join the Conversation

    Have you felt this quiet loss of joy? Or found something small that brings it back? We’d love to hear from you - send us a message or voice note and be part of the conversation.



    BetterHelp Paid Partnership - Get 10% off your first month

    If you’re struggling, consider therapy with our paid partner BetterHelp. Visit https://betterhelp.com/youkeepmesane for a 10% discount on your first month of therapy.

    BetterHelp makes it easy to find a therapist who suits your needs. Their online platform connects you with credentialed therapists, and if your first match isn’t the right fit, you can switch.

    Links:

    • Download Enough - Our Self Worth Reset.
    • Follow YKMS Podcast on IG @youkeepmesane.pod  
    • Follow YKMS on FB https://www.facebook.com/YouKeepMeSanePod
    • Email us at  [email protected]

    Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.youkeepmesane.com/subscribe/

    Hosts: Aileen Harvey & Julie Fahy

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    Disclaimer: 

    Remember, we’re two friends sharing our personal experiences and discussing everyday challenges. We’re not qualified coaches or therapists, and our content is for general information and supportive conversation only. If you need professional help, please seek advice from a licensed therapist.

    23 min
  • Imposter Syndrome in Midlife: The Confidence Gap No One Talks About

    Episode Overview

    This week, we’re returning to something we haven’t done in a while - reading a listener letter. And this one stopped us in our tracks.

    Elsa writes about something so many of us quietly carry: doing well on paper, yet feeling like we’re one step away from being found out. The overthinking, the over-preparing, the constant questioning - it’s exhausting.

    In this conversation, we unpack imposter syndrome through a self-worth lens. Why it often shows up in capable, high-achieving women. Why confidence doesn’t always follow experience. And why this might be less about competence - and more about self-trust.


    Key Discussion Points

    • Why imposter syndrome often shows up in high achievers
    • The gap between how life looks externally and how it feels internally
    • Overthinking, over-preparing, and the mental exhaustion that follows
    • Comparing ourselves to others who seem more confident
    • The difference between a competence gap and a self-trust gap
    • Why confidence isn’t a prerequisite for showing up


    Listener Takeaways

    • You’re not the only one - imposter syndrome is far more common than we think
    • Feeling like you’ll be “found out” doesn’t mean it’s true
    • Confidence doesn’t automatically come with experience or success
    • Awareness is the first step—notice the pattern, don’t immediately believe it
    • You don’t need to feel fully ready or certain to take your place
    • Self-worth isn’t built on getting everything right—it’s built on trusting yourself 

     If this episode resonated, you can start rebuilding your self-worth with our guide  ENOUGH


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    BetterHelp makes it easy to find a therapist who suits your needs. Their online platform connects you with credentialed therapists, and if your first match isn’t the right fit, you can switch.

    Links:

    • Download Enough - Our Self Worth Reset.
    • Follow YKMS Podcast on IG @youkeepmesane.pod  
    • Follow YKMS on FB https://www.facebook.com/YouKeepMeSanePod
    • Email us at  [email protected]

    Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.youkeepmesane.com/subscribe/

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    Disclaimer: 

    Remember, we’re two friends sharing our personal experiences and discussing everyday challenges. We’re not qualified coaches or therapists, and our content is for general information and supportive conversation only. If you need professional help, please seek advice from a licensed therapist.

    19 min
  • Cortisol: The Hidden Driver Behind How You Feel in Midlife

    Episode Overview

    In this episode, we explore something that’s been sitting underneath so many of our conversations lately… cortisol.

    What started as disrupted sleep and feeling constantly “on” quickly became something deeper. Because when you really look at cortisol, it’s not just about stress - it’s about how we live, what we carry, and what we believe about our own worth.

    This conversation moves beyond quick fixes and into a more honest question:
     Why is it so hard to slow down… even when we know we need to?

    💬 Key Discussion Points

    •  Why waking at 1–3am might be more than just “bad sleep” 
    •  Why stress hits differently in midlife 
    •  The link between cortisol and self-worth 

    🌿 Listener Takeaways

    •  If you’re feeling exhausted, wired, inflamed or foggy… there’s nothing wrong with you 
    •  Cortisol isn’t just about stress  it’s about what you haven’t allowed yourself to stop 
    •  Slowing down can feel uncomfortable when your worth is tied to doing 

    If this sounds familiar - waking at 3am, feeling wired but tired, or noticing that constant “on” feeling in your body -  you don't need more pressure. We've been using a 15-minute cortisol reset guide that's a really good place to start.

    Get it here:

    👉 GUIDE

    🤍 Join the Conversation

    This one felt personal for us… and we have a feeling it might for you too.

    Have you noticed these shifts in your own body?
    Do you find it hard to slow down, even when you know you need to?

    We’d really love to hear your experience.
    Send us a DM or email us at [email protected]

    And if this episode resonated, share it with someone who might need to hear it.

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    If you’re struggling, consider therapy with our paid partner BetterHelp. Visit https://betterhelp.com/youkeepmesane for a 10% discount on your first month of therapy.

    BetterHelp makes it easy to find a therapist who suits your needs. Their online platform connects you with credentialed therapists, and if your first match isn’t the right fit, you can switch.

    Links:

    • Download Enough - Our Self Worth Reset.
    • Follow YKMS Podcast on IG @youkeepmesane.pod  
    • Follow YKMS on FB https://www.facebook.com/YouKeepMeSanePod
    • Email us at  [email protected]

    Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.youkeepmesane.com/subscribe/

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    Disclaimer: 

    Remember, we’re two friends sharing our personal experiences and discussing everyday challenges. We’re not qualified coaches or therapists, and our content is for general information and supportive conversation only. If you need professional help, please seek advice from a licensed therapist.

    23 min
  • The Day You Realise You Don't Need To Be Chosen Anymore

    Episode Overview
    This week, we explore the need to be chosen — at work, in friendships, in love, and in family roles. For years, being picked can feel like proof of worth… and not being picked can quietly unravel us. We unpack how midlife starts to loosen that wiring, and how the shift from “please choose me” to “I choose me” changes everything.


    Key Discussion Points

    • Aileen notices she no longer needs praise or an invitation to feel valuable
    • Julie reflects on how fear of rejection shaped her choices for years
    • How “shape-shifting” shows up in friendships, family roles and people-pleasing
    • The romantic reframe: not “Do they want me?” but “Do I choose them?”
    • How to spot when you’re still living in “please choose me” mode


    Listener Takeaways

    • Being chosen isn’t proof of worth - and not being chosen isn’t proof you’re lacking
    • Fear of judgement can be just as exhausting as chasing validation
    • Midlife often brings clarity: you stop auditioning and start choosing
    • You can care deeply without over-explaining, over-giving, or over-performing
    • Self-worth grows when you trust your own choice, not someone else’s approval



    BetterHelp Paid Partnership - Get 10% off your first month

    If you’re struggling, consider therapy with our paid partner BetterHelp. Visit https://betterhelp.com/youkeepmesane for a 10% discount on your first month of therapy.

    BetterHelp makes it easy to find a therapist who suits your needs. Their online platform connects you with credentialed therapists, and if your first match isn’t the right fit, you can switch.

    Links:

    • Download Enough - Our Self Worth Reset.
    • Follow YKMS Podcast on IG @youkeepmesane.pod  
    • Follow YKMS on FB https://www.facebook.com/YouKeepMeSanePod
    • Email us at  [email protected]

    Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.youkeepmesane.com/subscribe/

    Hosts: Aileen Harvey & Julie Fahy

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    Disclaimer: 

    Remember, we’re two friends sharing our personal experiences and discussing everyday challenges. We’re not qualified coaches or therapists, and our content is for general information and supportive conversation only. If you need professional help, please seek advice from a licensed therapist.

    20 min
  • Quiet Wealth : Why Peace Is The New Status Symbol

    Episode Overview

    This week, we explore a quiet but powerful shift happening in midlife: the move from chasing traditional success to craving something far less flashy - peace.

    For years, achievement meant striving. Building. Proving. Being impressive. We grew up in a culture that celebrated ambition, hustle and visible markers of success. And in many ways, we embodied that - high achievers, big thinkers, always “on.”

    But midlife changes the lens.

    With shifting hormones, teenage children, ageing parents, business pressures and the constant hum of modern life, the nervous system starts to demand honesty. What once felt energising now feels depleting. What once looked impressive now looks exhausting.

    In this conversation, we unpack what happens when the real wealth we crave is calm. A regulated nervous system. Honest relationships. A home that feels steady. A life that feels sustainable.

    Because maybe the bravest thing we can do in midlife isn’t scale up - it’s refine.


    Key Discussion Points

    • Swapping coffee for cacao - and the unexpected lesson about cortisol, stimulation and going to extremes.
    • Why midlife women report some of the highest global stress levels - and what that says about modern success.
    • The shift from chasing “impressive” to choosing “peaceful.”
    • The guilt women feel when pulling back - and why peace is actually responsible, not selfish.
    • What “quiet wealth” looks like in real life: subtraction, depth, calm mornings and fewer but deeper relationships.
    • Insights from the long-running Harvard University adult development study, showing that close relationships - not fame or fortune - predict long-term happiness and health.


    Listener Takeaways

    • Notice where you’re still chasing impressive instead of peaceful.
    • Ask yourself what your current version of “success” is costing your nervous system.
    • Consider subtracting one commitment this month.
    • Reduce exposure to comparison triggers — both online and in conversation.
    • Invest more deeply in one relationship that feels regulating rather than draining.
    • Define success privately, not publicly.

    Quiet wealth doesn’t shout.
    It doesn’t need applause.
    But it feels rich.

    If this season of your life is asking for less noise and more depth, you’re not behind. You’re not unambitious.

    You might just be redefining what wealth truly means.



    BetterHelp Paid Partnership - Get 10% off your first month

    If you’re struggling, consider therapy with our paid partner BetterHelp. Visit https://betterhelp.com/youkeepmesane for a 10% discount on your first month of therapy.

    BetterHelp makes it easy to find a therapist who suits your needs. Their online platform connects you with credentialed therapists, and if your first match isn’t the right fit, you can switch.

    Links:

    • Download Enough - Our Self Worth Reset.
    • Follow YKMS Podcast on IG @youkeepmesane.pod  
    • Follow YKMS on FB https://www.facebook.com/YouKeepMeSanePod
    • Email us at  [email protected]

    Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.youkeepmesane.com/subscribe/

    Hosts: Aileen Harvey & Julie Fahy

    See https://www.buzzsprout.com/privacy for privacy information

    Disclaimer: 

    Remember, we’re two friends sharing our personal experiences and discussing everyday challenges. We’re not qualified coaches or therapists, and our content is for general information and supportive conversation only. If you need professional help, please seek advice from a licensed therapist.

    28 min

About You Keep Me Sane

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For 10 years, Aileen and Julie have been each other's sounding board from opposite sides of the globe – Aileen in London and Julie in Melbourne.

They have navigated everything – motherhood,…