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In this free-flowing episode, Annie & Jerry reflect on the dynamics of work and feminism, discussing the subsequent challenges faced and the effectiveness of second-wave feminism in light of persistent wage disparities and the increased burden of dual-income households. Then we move on to the idea of "prepping" for the apocalypse, the evil computers that live inside Teslas, and the end-of-day vibes NYC has been giving off.

A&J also reflects on their journey from pursuing art to embracing the business world, feeling conflicted about their choices and the loss of joy in their artistic practice. Jerry recalls advice from a professor predicting the challenges of sustaining an art career and feeling torn between artistic fulfillment and financial stability.

And finally, we take one of the voice messages one of our listeners left. We felt their question would potentially hit home for many of our listeners.

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