You Might Try This

You Might Try This

By Stacey Philpot and Cade CowanBusinessCareersManagement
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  • The Slow Drain: The early signals of burnout that high performers miss every time

    Welcome back!

    In this episode, Cade and Stacey explore the hidden burnout signals that leaders and high performers often miss until it’s too late. Drawing on the original research of psychologist Herbert Freudenberger and burnout expert Christina Maslach, they unpack why burnout is rarely about laziness or lack of commitment. In fact, the people most at risk are often the ones who care the most, work the hardest, and continue producing results long after they’ve started emotionally checking out.

    Key Takeaways:

    • Burnout was originally identified in highly committed, high-performing people, not disengaged employees
    • Cynicism and loss of meaning usually appear long before exhaustion does
    • High performers often hide burnout by increasing output and “pushing through”
    • Small losses outside work (think exercise, friendships, reflection time, hobbies) can be early warning signs
    • Leaders can spot burnout earlier by asking better questions about energy, momentum, and meaning

    Chapters

    00:00 The hidden cost of high-performer burnout

    02:15 How burnout was first identified

    04:21 The three stages of burnout leaders miss

    07:34 Why high performers hide burnout so well

    16:20 The early signals leaders should actually watch for

    26:10 Practical experiments to catch burnout early

    To learn more about us and the podcast, visit youmighttrythis.com and check us out on social media @youmighttrythis

    #Leadership

    #BurnoutPrevention

    #WorkplaceCulture

    #HighPerformance

    34 min
  • The Silence Tax: Why psychological safety isn't soft—it's the operating system your team runs on

    Psychological safety shapes team performance more than talent alone. In this episode of You Might Try This, Stacey and Cade unpack the real meaning of psychological safety and why most organizations misunderstand it.

    They discuss the hidden cost of silence in organizations, how leaders accidentally shut down dissent, and why “nice” teams often make worse decisions. Stacey and Cade also share practical leadership experiments for creating environments where people feel safe enough to challenge ideas, admit mistakes, and raise concerns before problems escalate.

    What You’ll Learn:

    • Why the highest-performing teams report more mistakes, not fewer

    • The connection between psychological safety and decision quality

    • How leaders unintentionally discourage honest feedback

    • Why polite agreement can be more dangerous than open conflict

    • The role dissent plays in stronger team performance

    • Three practical ways to encourage more candid conversations at work

    Chapters

    00:00: Amy Edmondson and the origins of psychological safety

    05:08: Why teams fail when people stop speaking up

    09:07: The hidden cost of silence and fake agreement

    13:48: Why dissent makes teams smarter

    19:32: Leadership behaviors that destroy psychological safety

    26:36: Three practical experiments to build safer, more honest teams

    #WorkplaceCulture #leadership #Communication #workplacesafety

    You Might Try This is a leadership podcast about learning how to lead without losing yourself along the way. Through research, coaching insights, and practical experiments, Stacey Philpot and Cade Cowan help leaders navigate the real challenges of modern work.

    To learn more about us and the podcast, visit youmighttrythis.com and check us out on social media @youmighttrythis

    35 min
  • The Pressure Decision: How to think clearly when the stakes are high and the clock is running

    When the pressure is on and the clock is ticking, most leaders don’t rise to the level of their best thinking, they fall back on instinct. In this episode of You Might Try This, Cade Cowan and Stacey Philpot break down what actually happens in high-stakes decision-making moments, and why even experienced leaders can make poor calls under pressure.

    What You’ll Learn:

    • why pressure causes even smart leaders to make worse decisions

    • how your brain’s “system one” thinking takes over under stress

    • the difference between one-way and two-way decisions and why it matters

    • how to interrupt reactive thinking with simple, practical questions

    • how to build a stronger “pattern library” for better decision-making over time

    Chapters

    00:00 How pressure impacts decision-making

    04:49 System 1 vs. System 2 thinking

    08:49 Stress, physiology, and leadership

    13:21 One-way doors and two-way doors

    18:13 Emotional pattern matching under pressure

    22:23 Three tools for better decisions

    To learn more about us and the podcast, visit youmighttrythis.com and check us out on social media @youmighttrythis

    32 min
  • The Boss Equation: How to build the most important relationship in your career without losing your integrity

    Managing up can feel uncomfortable, but avoiding it can quietly stall your career. In this episode of You Might Try This, hosts Stacey Philpot and Cade Cowan unpack why your relationship with your boss is the most important one at work. They explore the hidden risks of being “invisibly excellent” or overly agreeable, and why both approaches can limit your impact. Stacey and Cade reframe managing up as a mutual responsibility and share practical ways to build trust, increase visibility, and stay aligned.

    If you’ve ever felt overlooked or misunderstood, this episode offers a more intentional path forward.

    What You’ll Learn:

    • Why managing up is essential for career growth

    • What your boss actually needs from you (and why it matters)

    • The risks of being “invisibly excellent” or overly agreeable

    • How visibility and honesty build trust with your boss

    • Simple ways to stay aligned and strengthen your working relationship

    Chapters

    00:00 Why managing up feels uncomfortable

    03:19 The hidden cost of ignoring your boss relationship

    05:03 Mutual dependence: what your boss needs from you

    07:21 Transparency, trust, and the “no surprises” rule

    10:10 Bringing judgment—not just information

    12:11 The trap of over-compliance and becoming invisible

    17:37 The risk of being “invisibly excellent”

    21:11 Visibility vs. bragging: reframing self-advocacy

    21:54 Practical experiments: boss audit, assumption check, alignment check

    To learn more about us and the podcast, visit youmighttrythis.com and check us out on social media @youmighttrythis

    #leadership #careergrowth #management #workplacecommunication #professionaldevelopment #leadershipdevelopment #podcast

    29 min
  • The Conflict Reflex: Why your default response to tension is working against you—and what to do instead.

    Why do we still avoid difficult conversations, even when we know the cost? In this episode, Stacey Philpot and Cade Cowan explore the hidden reflexes driving conflict avoidance and escalation at work. Drawing on neuroscience and behavioral research, they explain how our brains interpret social conflict as physical pain, triggering automatic responses like silence or aggression. The discussion goes beyond awareness to offer practical ways to get “upstream” of these reactions by identifying what you’re protecting, whether it’s your relationships, self-image, or sense of control.

    Takeaways

    • Avoidance is often a reflex, not a choice
    • Conflict activates a biological threat response
    • Your default conflict style gets reinforced over time
    • Your reflexes are protecting something within you
    • How to get ahead of your reaction

    Chapters

    00:00 Understanding Your Conflict Reflex

    01:16 Why Knowing Isn’t Enough to Change Behavior

    03:01 The Science Behind Conflict Avoidance and Reaction

    06:37 Silence vs. Escalation: Two Common Conflict Patterns

    11:12 Identifying Your Triggers and Contextual Responses

    16:48 What Your Reflex Is Protecting

    22:04 A Practical Method to Interrupt Your Reflex

    To learn more about us and the podcast, visit youmighttrythis.com and check us out on social media @youmighttrythis

    30 min
  • The Courage Tax: What you pay every time you delay the conversation that needs to happen

    Why do difficult conversations feel so much harder the longer we avoid them? In this episode, Stacey and Cade unpack the hidden “taxes” leaders pay when they delay hard conversations at work; from damaged relationships and declining performance to mental overload and unnecessary anxiety. They explore why silence often costs more than honesty. The conversation offers practical tools for leaders, including how to start difficult conversations, avoid climbing the ladder of inference, and use curiosity instead of judgment.

    Takeaways

    • Avoidance has real costs
    • Silence is often misinterpreted
    • The story in your head is usually worse than reality
    • Start with observable facts, not assumptions
    • Choose the right opening

    Chapters

    00:00 The Cost of Avoiding Difficult Conversations

    01:11 The Conversation You’ve Been Putting Off

    03:05 The Hidden “Taxes” of Avoidance

    06:50 Why Leaders Avoid Giving Feedback

    08:22 The Cognitive Load of Unspoken Issues

    10:26 Why Difficult Conversations Feel Worse Than They Are

    17:52 How to Start a Difficult Conversation

    If you’re a leader struggling to bring up hard topics, this is the episode for you.

    To learn more about us and the podcast, visit youmighttrythis.com and check us out on social media @youmighttrythis

    29 min
  • The Good Soldier Trap: Why being dependable can become a liability with LaToya Jordan

    In this episode of You Might Try This, Stacey Philpot and Cade Cowan welcome Executive Coach and She Leads and Succeeds host LaToya Jordan for a powerful conversation about the “good soldier” trap: the career pattern where being dependable, helpful, and highly capable can quietly limit long-term growth.

    Together, they unpack how high-performing professionals, especially women, can become boxed in by their own excellence as executors, fixers, and problem-solvers. From “office housework” to low-visibility, high-effort tasks, the episode explores why saying yes too often can keep leaders stuck in support roles rather than strategic ones.

    Takeaways

    • Working harder can become the ceiling that limits career growth
    • High-effort, low-visibility work often stalls advancement
    • Saying yes to everything can reinforce the wrong professional brand
    • Strategic visibility matters more than constant execution
    • Ask questions before saying yes to new work

    Chapters

    00:00:00 – The hidden cost of saying yes

    00:01:15 – When hard work stops working

    00:02:24 – The good soldier trap

    00:06:24 – Office housework & invisible labor

    00:09:00 – Every yes is a tradeoff

    00:11:53 – How to say no (without damage)

    00:17:48 – From note-taker to thought partner

    00:21:09 – Auditing your work & shifting perception

    00:23:56 – What leaders really look for

    00:28:13 – Experiments to change your trajectory

    If you’ve ever wondered why hard work alone isn’t translating into advancement, this episode offers the language, frameworks, and courage to rethink what you say yes to.

    #executivecoaching #careeradvancement #growth

    35 min
  • The Feedback Friction: Why “constructive criticism” usually constructs a wall

    In this episode of You Might Try This, Stacey Philpot and Cade Cowan explore why leaders avoid giving feedback. They break down the psychology behind feedback fear, including how negative feedback triggers a real pain response in the brain and threatens identity.

    Challenging outdated methods like the feedback sandwich (also known as a sh*t sandwich), they introduce practical tools like the SBI (situation-behavior-impact) framework, an “adjective ban,” and feedforward strategies. The result: clearer, more constructive conversations that build trust, improve performance, and turn feedback into a powerful tool for leadership growth.

    Takeaways

    • Clear, direct feedback builds trust and supports growth
    • Focusing on observable behavior instead of character judgments betters the feedback session
    • Avoid the feedback sandwich and lead with clarity
    • Use the SBI framework: situation, behavior, impact
    • Shift the conversation toward future improvement

    Chapters

    1:01 – Why leaders avoid feedback

    7:23 – Selfishness and moral contagion

    10:57 – Neuroscience of negative feedback

    17:44 – Fundamental attribution error

    20:06 – Adjective ban and SBI model

    25:03 – Three experiments to try

    If you’re an emerging leader, newly promoted manager, or ambitious professional aiming for your next level, this episode will help you rethink how you create value and what to let go of to grow.

    #leadership #management #feedback

    29 min
  • The Expert Trap: How being the smartest person in the room can become your biggest liability

    In this episode of You Might Try This, hosts Stacey Philpot and Cade Cowan explore a critical leadership shift many high performers never see coming: when the skills that earned you a promotion start holding you back.

    They unpack the “expert trap”: how relying too heavily on your own expertise can turn you into a bottleneck, undermine your team’s confidence, and quietly derail your leadership trajectory. Through real-world examples and research-backed insights, Stacey and Cade explain why rewriting your team’s work, stepping in too fast, or role-modeling instead of coaching can erode trust, limit growth, and prevent future promotions.


    This conversation dives into the identity shift required when moving from individual contributor to leader, the hidden costs of control, and why organizations promote leaders who build successors, not bottlenecks. You’ll also hear practical strategies for delegating without disengaging, coaching without rescuing, and creating real ownership across your team.


    In this episode, you’ll learn:

    1. Why being an expert can quietly damage your leadership effectiveness
    2. How rewriting work and “saving” your team reduces capability and trust
    3. The difference between role modeling and coaching and why it matters
    4. How fear, control, and identity protectiveness show up in new leaders
    5. Practical ways to delegate, build successors, and scale your impact


    Chapters

    00:00 When your strengths start holding you back

    01:15 The promotion shift no one explains

    02:53 How experts become bottlenecks

    09:16 The gap leaders don’t see (and why it matters)

    12:05 Why you won’t get promoted without a successor

    17:22 How to stop overworking and start leading


    If you’re an emerging leader, newly promoted manager, or ambitious professional aiming for your next level, this episode will help you rethink how you create value and what to let go of to grow.


    #leadership #management #careergrowth

    24 min
  • The Harmony Illusion: Why a nodding team is more dangerous than a resisting one

    When leaders encounter resistance, the instinct is often to push harder, explain more, or shut down the conversation entirely. But what if resistance is actually a sign of engagement and silent agreement is the real danger? In this episode, Stacey and Cade unpack why a nodding team can be more harmful than a resistant one, and how leaders can turn pushback into energy, insight, and momentum.

    What You’ll Learn:

    • Why resistance is a sign of engagement, not failure

    • How stress responses like control and avoidance shape leadership behavior

    • The hidden dangers of “artificial harmony” and passive agreement

    • How to work effectively with skeptics, protectors, experts, and silent resisters

    • Practical questions leaders can use to turn resistance into insight and buy-in


    Chapters

    00:00 Why every leader faces resistance

    03:08 Your stress response is making it worse

    05:09 Resistance vs. apathy (this changes everything)

    09:58 The 4 types of people who push back

    16:17 How to turn resistance into buy-in


    To learn more about us and the podcast, visit youmighttrythis.com and check us out on social media @youmighttrythis


    #leadership #management #workplaceculture

    27 min

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Leadership is complicated, especially when you’re figuring it out in real time. You Might Try This is a weekly podcast for people who want to lead well without , burning out, selling out, or…