Jack and Hao structure an episode around, like, a half-pun? We talk Neutral Milk Hotel and tell stories about ... mold ... from our lives. At the end we pitch ideas for a THEME SONG.

Editor's Note: when we come back from the break we make a reference to talk of suicide in Act I. We did in fact talk about 13 Reasons Why in the original recording, that Netflix show about suicide, but neither one of us could come up with the correct title of that show so Hao cut all of it out. Hao, for the record, hates the show.

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