Big fight inside the White House over whether to end the CDC stay-home recommendations. Axios' Jonathan Swan is among the best-sourced reporters covering the White House and he broke that story. Catch Bill's candid conversation with his old friend. Follow him at @JonathanVSwan. Subscribe to his Sunday-night newsletter Axios Sneak Peak and watch him on Axios on HBO.

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