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Leaders who feel burnout and quiet resentment learn how to stop stress from harming their business, marriage, and team.
A Story You Might Recognize
It starts small.
You stay late “just this once.”
You miss a family moment.
You wake up tired and wired.
You tell yourself it will pass.
But stress stacks up. Home starts to feel tense. Work feels heavy. And the people you love most get the leftovers.
In this episode of Knack 4 Business, Dale Allen and Trevor Bryce Stevenson—co-founders of ConsciousLead—share what they’ve learned from 20+ years as both business partners and a married couple. They explain why most leaders were never taught how to talk when pressure is high—and how that silence turns into distance, then resentment, then burnout.
They teach harmless leadership (also called nonviolent leadership): a way to lead through uncertainty without causing damage in conversations, culture, or relationships. You’ll also hear about their powerful “week on, week off” method—built to fight decision fatigue, reduce scorekeeping, and give each partner real recovery time while still running a home and business.
If you feel less joy, more conflict, or repeating patterns you can’t fix, this episode gives you a clear next step.
Listen, then comment with one thing you’ll try this week—and connect with Dale and Trevor to keep the conversation going.
Key Topics Covered
Who This Podcast Is For
Startup founders, solopreneurs, scaling business owners, executive leaders, and couples building a business together.
What You’ll Gain
Actionable burnout prevention tools, better communication habits, stronger relationships, clearer boundaries, and healthier leadership for long-term growth.
Guest Links & Resources
Connect with Trevor Bryce Stevenson at ConsciousLead
Connect with Dale Allen at ConsciousLead
Listen / Watch / Read More
Listen on Simplecast
Watch on YouTube
Read the article on Ghost
Explore Knack 4 Business
Hosts
Hosted by Bernie Franzgrote and Wayne Pratt
Sponsor Details (Top 3 Fit for This Audience)
Support the show and explore tools that help founders and SMBs grow:
Recognition & Thanks
Thank you to Carl Richards from Podcast Solutions Made Simple
Thank you to Fred Crouch of Property Wizard
Thank you to Jovan Strika from Hive Coworking
Thank you to Melanie Webber
Call to Action
Send questions to [email protected]
Visit Knack 4 Business for more episodes and resources.
Then comment and tag the guests: what warning sign of burnout do you notice first—sleep, tension, or distance?
Disclaimer: Please note that the Knack 4 Business podcast episodes are meant solely for educational and general informational purposes. The information and opinions contained within are not intended to be professional advice on any subject matter. The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by the participants are their own beliefs and do not represent the views of the podcast hosts or any affiliated organizations.
It is important to note that this podcast is not a replacement for consulting with certified experts in your area who possess knowledge of your unique situation. The hosts of the podcast, along with any participants or affiliated groups, do not take responsibility for any actions taken or not taken based on the information presented in this episode.
It is highly recommended that individuals seek guidance from their advisors in fields such as accounting, law, or other pertinent areas prior to undertaking any actions or making decisions that may impact their financial, legal, or other aspects of life.
Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
By Bernie FranzgroteLeaders who feel burnout and quiet resentment learn how to stop stress from harming their business, marriage, and team.
A Story You Might Recognize
It starts small.
You stay late “just this once.”
You miss a family moment.
You wake up tired and wired.
You tell yourself it will pass.
But stress stacks up. Home starts to feel tense. Work feels heavy. And the people you love most get the leftovers.
In this episode of Knack 4 Business, Dale Allen and Trevor Bryce Stevenson—co-founders of ConsciousLead—share what they’ve learned from 20+ years as both business partners and a married couple. They explain why most leaders were never taught how to talk when pressure is high—and how that silence turns into distance, then resentment, then burnout.
They teach harmless leadership (also called nonviolent leadership): a way to lead through uncertainty without causing damage in conversations, culture, or relationships. You’ll also hear about their powerful “week on, week off” method—built to fight decision fatigue, reduce scorekeeping, and give each partner real recovery time while still running a home and business.
If you feel less joy, more conflict, or repeating patterns you can’t fix, this episode gives you a clear next step.
Listen, then comment with one thing you’ll try this week—and connect with Dale and Trevor to keep the conversation going.
Key Topics Covered
Who This Podcast Is For
Startup founders, solopreneurs, scaling business owners, executive leaders, and couples building a business together.
What You’ll Gain
Actionable burnout prevention tools, better communication habits, stronger relationships, clearer boundaries, and healthier leadership for long-term growth.
Guest Links & Resources
Connect with Trevor Bryce Stevenson at ConsciousLead
Connect with Dale Allen at ConsciousLead
Listen / Watch / Read More
Listen on Simplecast
Watch on YouTube
Read the article on Ghost
Explore Knack 4 Business
Hosts
Hosted by Bernie Franzgrote and Wayne Pratt
Sponsor Details (Top 3 Fit for This Audience)
Support the show and explore tools that help founders and SMBs grow:
Recognition & Thanks
Thank you to Carl Richards from Podcast Solutions Made Simple
Thank you to Fred Crouch of Property Wizard
Thank you to Jovan Strika from Hive Coworking
Thank you to Melanie Webber
Call to Action
Send questions to [email protected]
Visit Knack 4 Business for more episodes and resources.
Then comment and tag the guests: what warning sign of burnout do you notice first—sleep, tension, or distance?
Disclaimer: Please note that the Knack 4 Business podcast episodes are meant solely for educational and general informational purposes. The information and opinions contained within are not intended to be professional advice on any subject matter. The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by the participants are their own beliefs and do not represent the views of the podcast hosts or any affiliated organizations.
It is important to note that this podcast is not a replacement for consulting with certified experts in your area who possess knowledge of your unique situation. The hosts of the podcast, along with any participants or affiliated groups, do not take responsibility for any actions taken or not taken based on the information presented in this episode.
It is highly recommended that individuals seek guidance from their advisors in fields such as accounting, law, or other pertinent areas prior to undertaking any actions or making decisions that may impact their financial, legal, or other aspects of life.
Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.