Let's dive deep into the highs and lows of the creative life with Kevin Rapp, the seasoned creative leader and founder of Ultra Friends. 

In this episode, Joel Pilger invites Kevin to explore:

• ​Why creatives often find themselves exploited
• ​The emotional toll of turning passion into a career
• ​How business realities can erode the joy of creation

Kevin shares powerful insights on finding value in creative work, navigating the tension between business and creativity, and empowering the next generation of creators. 

Tune in for this honest conversation about the challenges and triumphs of living a creative life.

Connect with Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-rapp-consulting/

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