A whopping 70% of the workforce is disengaged…is that you? Is it the people you lead??

Kate Volman, CEO of Floyd Consulting and steward of The Dream Manager framework, believes most leaders are diagnosing the wrong problem because they’re trying to fix performance at WORK instead of asking what happened to someone’s dreams at HOME.

Today, Phil and Kate discuss why people check out at work (long before they quit). Once someone has stopped dreaming in their own life, that disengagement eventually shows up in their performance, energy, and loyalty.

What they unpack:

• The real driver behind that 70% disengagement statistic
• What actually happens when adults stop dreaming
• The patterns most common in adult’s dreams (including finances, health, and relationships)
• How waiting for inspiration quietly delays meaningful work
• Where perfectionism shows up and how it limits output
• Why structured accountability consistently outperforms raw motivation

If you lead a team and want higher engagement without gimmicks, this conversation with Kate will give you a clear starting point.

0:00 Intro02:30 Kate’s Career Path06:29 What the Dream Manager Is10:13 Are Dreams Fluff?12:34 Engagement & Leadership Responsibility14:01 How Dreams Evolve Over Time18:05 Writing the Book20:50 The Myth That Inspiration Will Strike23:08 Action Creates Clarity25:29 Ego & Fear of Criticism28:14 Defining Success in Creative Work31:20 Systems & Accountability35:59 How Kate Defines Success39:57 Where to Connect with KateResources Mentioned:Connect with Kate:https://www.katevolman.com📚 Do What You Love by Kate Volmanhttps://a.co/d/06ieszyN 📚 The Dream Manager by Matthew Kellyhttps://a.co/d/016WfdH6 The Dream Manager Programhttps://www.thedreammanager.com🎙️ Kate’s channel and “Create For No Reason” podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@KateVolmanMedia Follow @PhilOnPurposehttps://www.instagram.com/philonpurposehttps://www.facebook.com/philonpurpose