The #DiplomacyLight podcast, hosted by Ljupco Jivan Gjorgjinski will take on some of the heaviest diplomatic issues — past, present and future — and present them with a touch of lightness.

In this episode, Ljupčo is talking to Zachary Kollenborn on the special form of the autonomous lethal weapon systems: swarms. Robots and drones that mimic natural swarm formations. Mr Zachary Kallenborn is a policy fellow at the George Mason University, and fellow at the US National Institute for Deterrence Study