Murder to excellence. This week, the boys are joined by the co-creative director and co-founder of Who Decides War, Ev Bravado. Ev showed up nearly two hours early to chop it up on when to drink red or white wine, copping your first iced out chain from Alex Moss, not holding grudges, Virgil Abloh teaching him how to be zen, taking over a major fashion house vs. building your own legacy, where he sees his brand in 5 years, how he and his wife find a work life balance, hitting the spa for some me time, expectations for Pharrell's Louis Vuitton, Fashion's relationship with young American POC designers, how the space has changed in a post-BLM world if at all, declining the FaceTime that was trying to tell him he was selected as one of the ten finalists for the 2023 CFDA/Vogue Fashion Fund and his chances of winning, whether or not he feels overlooked and underrated, making movies in Paris with Pop Smoke, the Ice Spice effect, when a rapper gives their flow to a weed carrier, his personal relationship to faith and how it influences design, falling in love with the sampling process, following in his tailor father's footsteps, how much does a fashion show really cost, what he thinks of fellow denim contemporaries Amiri, Chrome Hearts and Gallery Dept, finally settling TF's jort debate, high school fashion cliques and much more on this insidery and insightful episode of The Only Podcast That Matters™.

For more Throwing Fits, check us out on Patreon: www.patreon.com/throwingfits.