Zero Days Since...Podcast by Jason Robinson and Chelsea Adler

July 12, 2025 Zero Days Since We Had a Podcast

Transcript

Jason Robinson

Welcome to Zero Days Since, it’s the podcast where there’s two founders, we’re going to journal our story and building a wooden versus wooden purse brand and have fun doing it. I’m Jason, I’m a woodworker.

Chelsea Adler

And I am Chelsea. I’m a designer.

Jason Robinson

Nice. Well, Chelsea, this is episode number one.

Chelsea Adler

I know.

Jason Robinson

Zero decisions. Yeah, well, before we get into kind of the I think the what we want to talk about today and the title of the show, I got you a little present. Okay. So, once you open up the box, this is what we’re drinking today.

Speaker 1

So let’s see. Okay.

Chelsea Adler

Oh, that’s the sound of the box opening. Oh my God. Is this the one?

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Jason Robinson

I don’t know. I have many.

Chelsea Adler

This is the one that’s, like, really smooth and smoky.

Jason Robinson

Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

So okay, if you’re not watching and just listening, we are going to be drinking whiskey every single episode. It might be the same whiskey. It could be a different whiskey every.

Jason Robinson

Yeah. Kick up the notch a little bit for us.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah. But, Jason and I are both huge fans of Adult Bark, which is a locally, distilled whiskey here in Tucson. And so he brought Dell back bottled in. But the classic.

Jason Robinson

Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

Oh, my God, this one’s really good. Yeah. I’m super excited.

Jason Robinson

Absolutely. All right, so pour it out here. Nice. Well, while you’re doing.

Chelsea Adler

That like around the microphone.

Jason Robinson

While you’re doing that I know we’re getting used to.

Chelsea Adler

Let the clumsy one do it.

Jason Robinson

That’s right. These.

Chelsea Adler

How many fingers? Not that I’m even.

Jason Robinson

Yeah. Whatever you think. Oh my goodness gracious. That’s a heavy pour.

Speaker 1

Are you taking it.

Jason Robinson

To be a fun podcast?

Chelsea Adler

I’m going to. But this is heavy. And this one.

Speaker 1

Have you met me yet?

Jason Robinson

Right. Oh, God. Now you’re knocking over lights.

Chelsea Adler

I know I told you, I’m the clumsy you.

Jason Robinson

I’m telling you, people are going to listen to this. They’re going to be like, oh my God, we have to watch. This is classic. Okay. Well, cheers. Hey, cheers to the podcast. Bing woo! All right, James, I’ll have to put it in, like, a little clink if it didn’t come through.

Chelsea Adler

Anytime something fun happens, it goes clink.

Jason Robinson

All right. What are we doing like that. All right. Perfect.

Chelsea Adler

Show that baby off. Oh my god.

Jason Robinson

All right.

Chelsea Adler

Zero days.

Jason Robinson

Zero days since.

Chelsea Adler

Zero days since zero days since we had a podcast.

Jason Robinson

Where do you come up with the title zero days.

Chelsea Adler

This is like just this. I don’t even remember how it came up. It just we just started seeing it one day. But.

Jason Robinson

It was, it was the whole idea of, the, the signs. I’d say. How many days since the last incident. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Chelsea Adler

And so it was like, there was like one day we were both just. I think it was when we were working on, Andrew’s like really big order, like over Christmas time. We were both just honestly probably delusional, exhausted.

Speaker 1

And.

Chelsea Adler

Doing anything to entertain ourselves while we were working. And it was like things kept coming up that kept happening over and over again. That was like, probably shouldn’t have been funny, but it was funny. And so it’s like zero days since Jason complained about Chelsea being late or zero days.

Jason Robinson

Since I glued my fingers together. But it was always like, it wasn’t like, how many days since the last incident? There was always zero.

Chelsea Adler

Zero days since whatever the thing was happening right then, and it just kind of became like an inside joke and it turned into really funny. And so now it comes up all the time. Yeah. Zero days. Usually it’s zero days since Chelsea was late.

Jason Robinson

We could use it almost for anything.

Speaker 1

We can it.

Jason Robinson

So I said, well, that’d be a funny title for our podcast. Yeah. Kind of journaling our lives. Yeah. Through this entire.

Chelsea Adler

So today at zero days since we started a podcast, and it’s kind of crazy to think about just how far things have come, because, yeah, we’re a year and a half in. Really?

Jason Robinson

Yeah. And I think that’s what I think that we can look forward to. Yeah. This is this is always going to be fresh material.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah.

Jason Robinson

Just our lives in general, all the things going on and then how it integrates within just the company that we’re building to. And.

Chelsea Adler

Right.

Jason Robinson

And it’s just comical.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah. Well I’m and then also I’m just thinking like starting a business from scratch from zero is so hard and to see just the like, look back on how things started and the progress stuff. Like now we’re sitting here doing a podcast, talking about it, hoping to inspire other small business owners in a fun, entertaining and relatable way.

Chelsea Adler

Maybe like, it doesn’t have to be that serious. Guys like, just have fun and like, love what you’re doing. And so, I don’t know, it’s just kind of cool. Like, it’s kind of hitting me sitting here, you know, maybe it’s a sip of whiskey, but I’m like, having a little moment like.

Speaker 1

Wow. Yeah, I’m sitting with a microphone in front of me. Yeah, I know, like, I’m somebody nice.

Jason Robinson

But I’m also imagining, through this whole process to that will, there’s so many cool people that we’re meeting. I think there’s, I mean, being downtown, with my store, we run into all sorts of people out of town. And just the conversations that we have, I think there’s always gonna be something new that’s coming up that we get to share.

Chelsea Adler

Or like a new connection to be made.

Jason Robinson

New connection.

Chelsea Adler

Somebody knows somebody.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

I think my, my favorite thing with that is like, when people recognize it now they’re out and they see the purse and they’re like, hey, I’ve seen that downtown. Or like in front of me, they won’t know that I’m the one like, it makes it or, you know, and, they’re like, hey, I think that, the Museum of Art or, you know, something like that.

Chelsea Adler

And I’m like, oh.

Speaker 1

Mount them and launch.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it’s a big.

Jason Robinson

One. We’re still waiting to see it out in the wild.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah, out.

Jason Robinson

In the wild. What does that mean?

Chelsea Adler

So that means like organically seeing your product out on the street and like, it’s such a cool moment. Like, I’ll never forget the first time with, my clothing line. The first time I saw somebody wearing it that like, I did not know personally, and I just saw them from afar. And like the visual of seeing a person wearing something I made.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah. And like, walking past me, having no idea I’m the one that made it like that was like a really cool. Like I didn’t need the recognition for it in that moment. It was like seeing that was like the recognition totally, because she’s out wearing it. She thought of that outfit that day and decided that made her feel good, and that’s what she was wearing out in the world for people to look at her.

Chelsea Adler

And then like, I got to see her. And I was like, I made.

Speaker 1

That.

Jason Robinson

Well, in the fact that you didn’t know who that person.

Chelsea Adler

Was, right? Yeah.

Jason Robinson

Now, you may have in this situation, but like, that’s what we’re all looking for is like, we typically are in the process when we’re selling them. Yeah. Right. But now we’re waiting for the time when we get out there and someone just has it and we’re like, we have no idea who that person is. Like, I didn’t do it, did you?

Jason Robinson

Now, just random person picked it up at. Yeah, one of our places. Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

And so it’s going to take a lot for me not to run up and be like, I made that.

Jason Robinson

Don’t be like.

Speaker 1

Weirdo. Like, we’re over on the side. We’re just. They’re like, great. It’s got.

Chelsea Adler

Good thank.

Speaker 1

Factor.

Jason Robinson

It’s we’re like giving them unsolicited. Oh, I remember on factor, you know, we had something with spikes. They’re like I don’t know who you people are.

Chelsea Adler

That’s a weapon.

Jason Robinson

Well I think it would be fun to in this podcast too. Is that, you know, we we started thinking about all these different titles, but, what is one of the major questions that people always ask us?

Chelsea Adler

Are we married?

Jason Robinson

Yeah. Right. And so I think having this podcast too, where it’s like and building this company when we are not married spouse or partners in this whole thing too, just navigating through that, I think, also adds a level of dynamic.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah, it does. There’s definitely a balance that has to be found that some day by day, minute by minute, sometimes.

Jason Robinson

Half the time you’re working. I’m at your place. Yeah. I’m working. I’m at my place.

Speaker 1

That’s the other.

Chelsea Adler

Crazy thing, is that we are not doing this out of, like, a factory. We don’t have a, workshop or anything. We’re literally doing this. Yeah. Okay. Yes, yes. Right. But we’re doing this out of our houses, which is like, just speaks to, like, you don’t need the perfect setup if you have an idea. And if you have, you know, the tools and the talent or not.

Chelsea Adler

Talent. Well, yeah, maybe talent. But like, if you have the means to be able to put something out into the world for people to enjoy, you don’t have to have the perfect setup to make it happen. The setup will come eventually. Yeah, it may.

Jason Robinson

Take there gets a point where like efficiencies come into play, of.

Chelsea Adler

Course. Absolutely. But like.

Jason Robinson

But we were.

Chelsea Adler

I think.

Jason Robinson

I can’t wait to tell the story about like how we got started up at forge and we that’ll be one of our podcasts like zero days since we almost killed ourselves.

Speaker 1

You know, just stories.

Chelsea Adler

For Tesla man. But, I don’t know. I think we get too caught up and hung up on perfection. That it keeps us. It keeps us from starting. I know it, and like, when I’m writing, it stops me a lot because I, like. I need to have everything, like a scene completely mapped out and, like, know from beginning to end what’s going to happen.

Chelsea Adler

And that never happens. Like, I’ll get into it with a plan and then I’ll start writing and then, it, it completely goes a different direction most of the time. And, so I have a plan. Yes, but like, be flexible with it and it doesn’t need to be perfect. You can just whatever you have, make it work.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah. I mean, what, who owns Amazon.

Jason Robinson

Jeff.

Chelsea Adler

Bezos, Jeff Bezos, he started out, like, in a garage, like, I remember when Amazon was just books and it was mostly used books and you traded them. Oh, and it was the first time you could trade use books online, at least that I knew of at the time. And, it was like pictures of him, like in his basement or in his garage, like with a little desk and, like, boxes of books all around him.

Chelsea Adler

And he was operating Amazon from that. And now look at it like it’s insane. Yeah, yeah. So, I don’t know, just start. Just start and everything else. So find a place no.

Jason Robinson

100% like, you know, and there’s the old saying, or it’s like it’s 50% something better than 100% of nothing. Sort of, you know, but it’s like, just get out there. And how many times have we made different variations on the show?

Chelsea Adler

You just showed me a new one today. I did in the wallet.

Jason Robinson

Oh, yeah. You’re right. Yeah, yeah. Just added these like little tabs, you know, that’s just that was from someone coming into proper. Right who was like, What have you did this? I was like, oh, that’s actually a good idea.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah, yeah. Let’s go with that. Oh my gosh. When we went from the teeny tiny little holes to the big holes.

Jason Robinson

Okay, so let’s put this into context. Right. So, the timber tub. Yes. Has this little wood stitch.

Chelsea Adler

It’s got like a stylized stitching across the front. So it’s a wooden purse. It’s a made out of wood. And but I when we were designing I wanted it to look like a purse, like I don’t, I wanted it to have the same details as a regular leather purse. And the actual is that it has those details, but it’s made out of wood.

Chelsea Adler

Right. And so I wanted this stitching detail across the front flap of the purse. It was non-negotiable. I think Jason tried to talk me out of those stitches for money.

Jason Robinson

You think I’m that strategic?

Speaker 1

No, you.

Chelsea Adler

You were like. You were like, this is bottleneck.

Speaker 1

And this is like it was. Yeah, yeah.

Chelsea Adler

But how fast have I got? I’m so fast now.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

So then finally he got on board and then he even. You even bought me the clamp.

Jason Robinson

Oh yeah.

Chelsea Adler

For the. So I could double needle it.

Jason Robinson

But you haven’t used, you.

Chelsea Adler

Know what happened though is because we went.

Speaker 1

Back.

Chelsea Adler

Because I made the mistake of telling Andrew that we could have little tiny holes because she likes the tiny holes. So, like one of our biggest clients right now, she wanted the tiny holes, and I was like, yeah, we’ll do the tiny holes. Meanwhile, Jason’s like.

Jason Robinson

Oh, friends, you know? Right.

Speaker 1

So.

Jason Robinson

But I don’t have to stitch.

Chelsea Adler

So the double stitch doesn’t work with the tiny holes. So I got I don’t know, I just we were doing so many of hers that I just kind of, I forget. Anyway, why did I even bring that up?

Jason Robinson

I know, I’m just talking about. Yeah. How we move from the small holes to the big ones.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah, that was nice because now they’re so fast. But anyways, you have these little holes, they get drilled, they get drilled in with the laser. And so and then I go in with a stitch. The stitch has no function other than style. Like it’s just static. Yeah. It makes me happy. And then everyone else is happy.

Jason Robinson

So and I’m like, I don’t even know I’m. This is all brand. I never think a million years I’d be selling purses.

Chelsea Adler

People love the stitching. When when they.

Speaker 1

Got the.

Chelsea Adler

Whole thing for yeah, I yeah. But the first question is is this wood? And then they’re like yeah. And touch it, knock on it. You know whatever. And they’re like how did you stitch it. That’s usually the next question. And and then I say, well our laser.

Jason Robinson

You know I usually get like a oh my gosh, you hand stitch each one I’m like yeah Chelsea does. Yeah. They’re like, dang.

Chelsea Adler

I just kind of zone out.

Jason Robinson

There you go.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah. Like it makes my brain quiet.

Jason Robinson

You stitch them while you’re doing some of the other content. Yeah I do talk about your day. Yeah. On the other platforms.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah. I got a multitasking queen of multitasking. I was literally straightening my hair on a zoom this morning. And being praised for how good I am at.

Speaker 1

Multitasking, trying to.

Jason Robinson

Just trying to survive.

Chelsea Adler

And it stresses you out too, because like, I’ll see, like you, I feel like sometimes you don’t think I’m listening to you and you’re talking to me, but I’m doing something else. But I swear to God, I hear you better if my hands are busy. I’m comprehending what you’re saying. Better unless I look at you like this.

Jason Robinson

Which? We’ve got that picture. It’s a sticker.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

All right, I’ll go.

Jason Robinson

Oh, yeah. Right. All right, let’s say, what’s happened over the last week? I think that’s always like a topic we’ll throw in near to. Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

Well, is it really the last week? Maybe. Can we, like, stretch.

Speaker 1

Like.

Chelsea Adler

A couple weeks? Sure.

Jason Robinson

Because what’s the big one? Starting what?

Chelsea Adler

Scarlet.

Jason Robinson

June 1st.

Chelsea Adler

Adding Scarlet. Yeah. Like that is.

Jason Robinson

May.

Chelsea Adler

First. May 1st. Yeah. We added a whole other human to the business. Yeah, a huge accomplishment just for the business itself. But it’s really exciting because it means I don’t have to do that job anymore. Jason doesn’t have to do that job anymore. And, so, bringing Scarlet on is really exciting. And she killed it.

Jason Robinson

Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

So we have four new accounts.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

And she sold.

Jason Robinson

40.

Chelsea Adler

Some 40.

Speaker 1

In a week, I.

Chelsea Adler

Think. 42 purses in one week.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

Which I was like 42 purses. It’s amazing. And then I was like.

Speaker 1

We have to make 40.

Jason Robinson

Do you got to stitch 42? Right.

Chelsea Adler

So it’s like this like, double edged sword. It’s like super exciting. And I’m like, feels really good. And then you’re like, oh, yeah, I got to fulfill that. So then it gets really stressful. But right, it’s also fun.

Jason Robinson

Isn’t that the joys of an entrepreneur, though? Yeah, an a business owner. It’s like these peaks and valleys.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah. I have to be honest with you. I dread the day that it gets to the point where, like, I don’t have to be as hands on in production, I dread it. Why? I love it. I am such a hands on person, I like creating, I like doing things with my hands.

Jason Robinson

I can you think of it this way as though don’t dread the day. Look forward to the day when you can do as many as you want to do.

Chelsea Adler

I guess that’s true.

Jason Robinson

Because then you can jump and just be like, hey.

Chelsea Adler

I’m like new perspective. You know?

Jason Robinson

Like I always have these like one liners.

Chelsea Adler

Sometimes I want to sit in my self-pity.

Speaker 1

And then you’re like, yeah, but what if we look at.

Chelsea Adler

It this way and it’s like a really good.

Speaker 1

Perspective? That’s true, but I can’t argue it.

Jason Robinson

Kill your moment.

Chelsea Adler

No, it’s fine, it’s fine. You’re like, no, I do love that I do that. I’ll just like, waltz in one day and like a fluffy robe and be like, I want to make five. I’ll just pick five and make them listen.

Jason Robinson

She wasn’t like that when I.

Speaker 1

Picked her up.

Speaker 1

Oh, no.

Chelsea Adler

Don’t ever let me go like that.

Jason Robinson

No, no, I promise.

Chelsea Adler

I have to drag me out instead.

Jason Robinson

I’ll keep you in check.

Chelsea Adler

No, you’d have to drag me out.

Jason Robinson

I’d say something probably about the fluffy thing. I’d be like, where’d you pick that up? It was nice. Sorry. Twisted is probably a great philosophy company.

Speaker 1

I use it.

Chelsea Adler

I used to go to twice it all the time. Actually. Did you thrifting? It’s good for them.

Jason Robinson

I went there one time for a Halloween costume. You did know it was a ugly sweater contest. Oh, so my ugly sweater contest. Best ever. Wore my a white shirt with a tie, and I had A3T sweater vest I thought I put on, so it only came to, like, here at.

Speaker 1

Oh, like.

Chelsea Adler

Two years and.

Speaker 1

Toddler, three toddler like.

Jason Robinson

I went to twice as nice. But the thing and I put it on and it shaved my armpits.

Speaker 1

Yeah. No kidding. How did you even get your.

Chelsea Adler

I imagine you’re, like, not going to put your arms down.

Jason Robinson

I could, but you end up chafing your armpits. Yeah. Ended up winning the contest. My ties, like hanging out the bottom and, couldn’t get it off, so I’m like, home. Muriel’s like, I’m, like, bent over like this, and she’s, like, ripping it.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah. I’ve only ever been to one ugly sweater party when I lived in LA, and I had gone to my grandma, I said, hey, I’m going to this party, I need to borrow a sweater. And she was really flattered. She’s like, you want to borrow one of my sweaters? And it and me not even thinking about it, I was like, yeah, it’s an ugly Christmas sweater party.

Chelsea Adler

She goes, oh, okay, you can come look at me. Something so I actually I went and I looked through my grandmas sweaters. I couldn’t pick one. Her sweaters were.

Speaker 1

Impeccable, mom.

Chelsea Adler

They were beautiful. I loved every single one. And I was like, I. None of these are ugly. Like, I can’t. I found one in my aunt’s closet who’s a hairstylist and must.

Speaker 1

Have she had the.

Chelsea Adler

Ugly sweater. I love you TV.

Jason Robinson

But yeah, we went to another one and it was, Marielle and I in one sweater. So I did like two had holes, but only had two arms.

Chelsea Adler

I’ve seen one of those. It’s like, they, they have these they’re big giant sweatshirts and it’s one sleeve all the way across. So you’re in your own individual sweater, but the sleeve is attached to another person and it’s like, so you don’t lose your bestie in a crowd.

Jason Robinson

Oh, okay.

Speaker 1

So I.

Chelsea Adler

Told Scarlett, next time we go out drinking, we have to.

Jason Robinson

Have that. Oh my God.

Chelsea Adler

Can you imagine how hard it would be to climb a tree?

Speaker 1

Oh, that’s that’s connected to it.

Jason Robinson

This girl, every time she drinks, she’s up a tree.

Speaker 1

Literally.

Chelsea Adler

I went to go visit, Jamison’s, a new elementary school, and they’ve got this playground and, one of the most, exciting things about the playground is it’s huge field, and it’s surrounded by, like, fallen logs and, like, trees that they’ve grown specifically so the kids can climb them. And it’s designed for kids to climb the trees and the logs and stuff.

Chelsea Adler

And I was like, I want to do that.

Chelsea Adler

Like, that looks fun for me. Can I leave the tour and go climb the trees?

Jason Robinson

What do they say? Well, you’re like my adult brain was, like, not appropriate.

Chelsea Adler

I’m the mom.

Jason Robinson

Kelly Jamison on the weekends.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, we’ll.

Jason Robinson

Jump the fence.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah, I’ll go pick them up. I’ll park the car. We’ll go to the playground for like, 20 minutes and we’ll climb the trees. Sounds perfect, I love it. We’re probably gonna do that ugly clientele.

Jason Robinson

On this week’s Saturday.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah, yeah, there’s that one tree that goes down and up and you can, like, walk on it and then climb up the side. It’s Jamison’s favorite tree to climb.

Jason Robinson

Okay, so I’ve been there in years.

Chelsea Adler

It’s really pretty. The turtles come out and they’ll just, like, come right up to you now.

Jason Robinson

Anyway, I’m looking forward to Saturday. I.

Chelsea Adler

Are you going to go?

Speaker 1

Yeah. Oh, we talked about this.

Chelsea Adler

Now, I know, but you made it sound like I needed to go, like, represent because you couldn’t.

Jason Robinson

No, no, no, I was just saying, like, are you guys available? Oh, okay. Oh. We’re going.

Speaker 1

Okay. No one. Right? Yeah. We’re good. Yeah.

Jason Robinson

You heard it here.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

Committed. I will be there at 9 a.m.. Yeah.

Jason Robinson

Right. Yeah. Donuts. Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah. Donut. I’m motivated.

Speaker 1

All right, I guess.

Chelsea Adler

How do you get me there, sugar?

Jason Robinson

Yeah. Right. Or liquor.

Chelsea Adler

Or whiskey?

Jason Robinson

Yeah. Right. Yeah, I don’t know.

Chelsea Adler

Are you done?

Jason Robinson

No. Still going to catch up? Yeah. How much more do we want to chat about?

Chelsea Adler

You could leave that in a few hours. Let me choke it on the whiskey. I don’t know.

Jason Robinson

I think that that’s kind of like we want out of this thing, right? Yeah, out of the podcast. Have some fun. Well.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah, we want to have fun. We want to, kind of journal our progress. Not. It doesn’t always have to be like, we may not always constantly talk about timber toe specifically. It’s what we have between us, right? But we are both solopreneurs, like, before this. Right now, we’re embarking on this journey, as, you know, a partnership.

Chelsea Adler

So that’s always an interesting dynamic. And then we.

Jason Robinson

Don’t really talk much about ourselves either.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah, well, we got plenty of time to do that. Yeah, it’ll come out eventually.

Jason Robinson

All the different. Yeah. Because each one of us are running like three companies. Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

We are. Yeah.

Speaker 1

To those two. Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

That’ll come naturally.

Jason Robinson

Although I don’t have a five year old.

Chelsea Adler

No, you do not know.

Jason Robinson

I’ve got a 19. A 16 year old. Yeah. Which is a whole nother set of problems. Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

My five year old did not want to get dressed this morning. So.

Jason Robinson

Yeah, maybe they’re not too far off. My oldest doesn’t want to get up and go to work.

Speaker 1

Now he’s getting better.

Chelsea Adler

But I don’t know, I guess I just, for me, I want to humanize the process of business ownership. I think that a lot of times, it it in a lot of people’s minds, it becomes almost robotic or, an emotionless. Sure. And you kind of forget that there’s an actual human making things happen. No matter how big or how small the business is, sure.

Chelsea Adler

I just want to humanize it a little bit.

Jason Robinson

The struggles real. Sometimes it.

Chelsea Adler

Is like.

Jason Robinson

I mean, we were talking about that earlier today, right? Because I do the financial planning stuff and I’m watching CNBC and Federal Reserve chair talking about unemployment looks good economy. All the data shows that it’s strong, but yet some of the sort of ponerse, you know, the struggles real, you know, and so I don’t think we’re alone, you know, in the hustle.

Jason Robinson

Yeah. And just like summer in Tucson,

Chelsea Adler

Entail.

Jason Robinson

Brutal. Yeah. It is, you know, so I think that’s what makes it a little bit different, too. I mean, we chat about this about, you know, we have the ability to create activity. That’s what I’d call it, as opposed to just like some of the traditional retail places wait for people to come in. Right? You know, but, you know, with our with the direction that we’re looking to go, connecting with wholesale, all we have to do is be like, well, where do people go now?

Jason Robinson

They don’t come to the 100 and hot places. They go up to Flagstaff, they go to.

Chelsea Adler

They go to.

Jason Robinson

Clearlake, go to Clearlake, they go to Alaska. Right? You know, so that’s where we just start reaching out these kind of places say, hey, you’re going to have the tourism. This is where people are going to be coming. But we can create that where if we just had a traditional retail store, oof, they’d be tough.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah. Yikes. Bikes. But there’s flexibility in that. Sure. And I think that’s necessary too, though, no matter what your structure is, having the flexibility for those ups and downs and, anticipating them, but also just remembering that, like, you know, like let it be what it be.

Speaker 1

Like, you know, I mean.

Chelsea Adler

Like, don’t like get passive about it, but, I think we’re so hard on ourselves. I know I’m very hard on myself internally in regards to work, just in general, like my self-worth is wrapped up in my productivity. So if I don’t have something making me feel productive than I am a worthless slug. So. And that’s how, like, that’s me being hard on myself, for sure.

Chelsea Adler

But I think that a lot of solopreneurs, entrepreneurs, business owners, I think a lot of us have that mindset for whatever reason might have led to that. Sure. I think a lot of us have that, and we feel that because so much is riding on. I just wrote a book about because it was a romance book, but the the protagonist, the heroine of the story, she was taking over her father’s business and she was, frustrated because he was splitting the job between her and another person.

Chelsea Adler

And she felt slighted because she felt like her father couldn’t trust her in taking over the business, even though that’s all she’s ever wanted. And it was a miscommunication because he his ultimate thing was I worked so hard. I miss so many things, and it took so much of my life and time to build it to what it is.

Chelsea Adler

I do not want that to happen to you. I’ve built it to the point where you don’t have to do that. And that was a really interesting, point of view to like reading a little romance.

Speaker 1

Novel, but.

Chelsea Adler

Like, still, I was like, oh, that’s so true. Like, building something from the ground up is such a different thing.

Jason Robinson

Oh, sure.

Chelsea Adler

You know, even passing it on to someone or it it just takes so much.

Jason Robinson

Of you or having something that’s got momentum or to build a brand. Right?

Chelsea Adler

Yeah. And, and, I think there’s a lot of ego involved, but then there’s a lot of humility. And, that’s a really interesting thing to maybe explore. So.

Jason Robinson

Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

And, and also, just some of the more serendipitous elements of it when things are falling into place versus when they’re not and like, when to recognize that, I think is all really important to consider.

Jason Robinson

I’m looking forward to another podcast where we talk about ChatGPT. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I’m dreading it. Oh, you you could write a whole novel on ChatGPT.

Speaker 1

No you.

Chelsea Adler

Cannot. Don’t get me started.

Jason Robinson

Then we do a challenge on that.

Chelsea Adler

We did, and I won.

Speaker 1

It was a it was.

Chelsea Adler

Should we read it? On the podcast. And then we could have people vote.

Jason Robinson

That’ll be the, the challenge will be like, what was it? It was like a 50 word.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah, I definitely went over 50 words, but it was the challenge was I posted it in a contest and, I got fifth place.

Speaker 1

You did not tell me that. I didn’t know.

Chelsea Adler

This was like, when did we do this? This is, like, probably two years ago when we actually did this.

Speaker 1

Something like that.

Jason Robinson

The problem was when we were coming up with the name, because we used ChatGPT to come up with the.

Chelsea Adler

Oh yeah. Yeah. And we were debating on whether or not touch GPT was even. I cannot stand ChatGPT. I think there are settings and places for it. But as a creative writer, okay, so but we were in a debate over. Yeah. You know, and we were trying to prove each other wrong and he came up with a prompt of like, you know, in 50 words to, in an emotional way, describe.

Jason Robinson

No, you actually said like, do a story.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah. Do a story of the last time you’re seeing somebody and make it emotional or whatever. And so ChatGPT came up with in like two seconds. Yeah, I wrote one. It took me about half an hour. I wrote it and it was beautiful. Perfect. More than 80 words and I yeah, it was going to do it, but I did.

Chelsea Adler

I put it in a, on vocal media. It’s like a writing community, you know, and so that’s all I could I swear, I told me, I told, I don’t know. Anyway, they put in a contest and at one fifth place, I didn’t win a prize because only the top three win prizes. But I did win fifth place.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah. So still, take that checked. You beat.

Speaker 1

Girl.

Jason Robinson

Like to. I like to think that I was part of that.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah. There you go.

Jason Robinson

Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

So ChatGPT will be a fun conversation.

Jason Robinson

Yeah. One of these times. Well, anyway, we go all sorts of different directions. Yeah, I had sucker.

Chelsea Adler

So. All right, well, I think that is kind of giving you a gist on what things are going to be like.

Jason Robinson

Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

I don’t see I’m.

Speaker 1

Don’t don’t you think I know I was?

Jason Robinson

She ends all conversation with this awkward pause.

Speaker 1

Okay.

Jason Robinson

By the end, I’m,

Chelsea Adler

Okay. So I don’t know. We’re going to have fun. We’re going to talk about our trials and tribulations, like reading glasses. Our this our age, different.

Jason Robinson

Oh, Jesus. That’s going to be fun. I got mistaken for 34 the other day.

Speaker 1

Oh, yeah.

Jason Robinson

That’s lovely. I know for.

Chelsea Adler

Me.

Jason Robinson

I know what.

Chelsea Adler

That’s it. No, that is me. How old am I? Your what year is it?

Jason Robinson

What we were and I, we were talking about that like you were born in 90, 90.

Chelsea Adler

I turned 20. Oh my God.

Jason Robinson

No you don’t.

Chelsea Adler

I turned 35. In two weeks.

Jason Robinson

Yeah. You don’t even. What year was I born? You. Yeah. You don’t even know. You can’t do the math that was in abacus. Yeah.

Speaker 1

That’s pretty good.

Jason Robinson

See, 70.

Chelsea Adler

Eight. I remember things.

Jason Robinson

I know, right. So nice. All right, so I guess, stay tuned for our next episode. We already talked about this. What? What? It was. What was the title going to be?

Chelsea Adler

Oh, zero days since someone asked us if we were married.

Jason Robinson

Yeah, we thought that’d be a good one. Yeah. So we get that all the time.

Chelsea Adler

I don’t want to just go into, the dynamics of partnership. Having come in as solopreneurs, the dynamics of partnership.

Jason Robinson

The differences between. Just like spouses. Yeah. In a partnership, non spouses partnership and just a partnership in general.

Chelsea Adler

Yeah.

Jason Robinson

Because that comes with tons of different dynamics. Yeah. So well we were also going to call it what zero day since we killed someone tried to kill. We almost died zero days. That was going to be another one.

Chelsea Adler

We almost, killed someone with toxic gas.

Jason Robinson

Oh, yeah. That was.

Speaker 1

An accident.

Jason Robinson

Yeah, the solar panel guys were out there. Yeah, that was cut them. Yeah, almost killed them. So. All right, well, hey, our social media, some of those plugs, you can follow us on the timber tote. Yeah, and the Instagram timber tote. Facebook. Yeah, at Timber Tote purse. Those are our handles. That’s our target. Trying to be young.

Chelsea Adler

Do you want to do your personal Instagram? You can, Well, I don’t want to do it if you’re not going to do it.

Jason Robinson

No. Nobody I do. All I do is put pictures of the timber tote and oh, I put stuff and stuff. And a couple of the boys.

Chelsea Adler

I posted that, I said, okay, whatever. Timber toppers at Timber Toppers, you’ll find me on the other stuff.

Jason Robinson

Yeah. If you got any questions, you know, or maybe some of your wildest, small business stories. Oh, yeah. Or any questions? You can email us info at Timber Tote purse.com. Yeah.

Chelsea Adler

You guys may not have questions because you don’t know us and trust us enough to answer them yet. I promise we’ll be entertaining.

Speaker 1

But.

Chelsea Adler

But I want to know stories I want to have. I want like wild stories. I want funny stories. I want to show it.

Jason Robinson

I want to read.com, send uplifting stories. Very good. All right, well, we’re zero days since pretending to be professionals. We’ll see you on the next one.

Speaker 1

Okay. Bye. And we’re out.

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