This week, our guest is ZHAO Hai, Director of the International Politics Program in the National Institute for Global Strategy at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS). We discuss US policy toward China, Sino-Russian relations, the war in Ukraine, and China’s vision of global order.

Time Stamps:

• 00:01:00 Zhao’s family connections to the PRC Navy
• 00:06:37 Zhao’s graduate study in Chicago
• 00:09:26 Chinese think tanks and the function of CASS
• 00:13:11 China’s reaction to Trump
• 00:22:57 China’s reaction to Biden
• 00:30:22 Sino-Russian relations before the Ukraine war
• 00:34:18 The war in Ukraine
• 00:47:52 China’s vision of global order

*The Trialogue Podcast is hosted by the Stimson Center and produced by University FM.

**The first twelve episodes of this podcast were published by the Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey.