On today’s show, Thursday host Allen Ruff takes another close look at the war in Ukraine in terms that go beyond the mainstream narrative of “democracy versus autocracy” with political and social geographer Zoltán Grossman.

Zoltán Grossman is a professor of geography and Native American and World Indigenous Peoples studies at The Evergreen State College. He is the author of several books, most recently Unlikely Alliances: Native Nations and White Communities Join to Defend Rural Lands (University of Washington Press, 2017).

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