A project specialist, social and climate justice activist, cultural worker, and founder of uManyano Lwe Jazz, Zukiswa White builds community through sound using jazz not just as a genre, but as a gathering, a social practice, and a rehearsal for freedom. In this conversation, we unpack what it means to organise independently in a world that often commodifies culture; how to centre joy, care, and belonging as radical acts; and how jazz, in the hands of the people, continues to echo the heartbeat of liberation. kaya 959