Ranchers are a big, but often misunderstood part of public land management in the western United States. Join David and Mike as they visit with Ethan Lane, Executive Director of the Public Lands Council and National Cattlemen's Beef Association - Public Lands. They dive into myriad topics surrounding public land management. Topics include: Access to "landlocked" public lands, respecting private property rights, history of checkerboard and state lands, supporting the Land and Water Conservation Fund, how to ask a landowner for access, corner crossing, ranchers as conservationists, protecting the working landscape to protect open spaces, and more.