A controversy over public lands’ management in Indiana’s 204,000-acre Hoosier National Forest turns out to be a microcosm of a burning (pun intended) national debate over using fire and targeted logging operations to create habitat for wildlife and a healthier, more diverse and more resilient forest.

From the 1960s to 80s, The U.S. Forest Service, in the grip of the so-called “timber beast” style of management, clear-cut millions of acres of publicly owned forestland, leading to widespread loss of wildlife, sediment-filled streams, and a furious backlash from conservationists. A barrage of successful lawsuits from environmental and conservation groups radically changed public land management, often for the good of the land, water and wildlife. But that same backlash, and the habit of filing lawsuits to block or guide public lands management, have posed extreme challenges in the decades since—critically-needed projects to restore native ecosystems and wildlife habitats have been blocked, management has in some cases been brought to a standstill, and a growing body of evidence shows that we have gone too far on certain parts of our public lands in simply “letting nature take its course.” It’s not a debate over “wilderness versus logging and roads” as it is sometimes framed. It’s not about the fallibility of human-directed land management versus the eternal wisdom of nature. It’s about a lot more than that, and it has national implications.

Join us for a conversation with three Hoosier hunters and conservation leaders who’ve found themselves on the frontline of this controversy—BHA Chapter Coordinator Jameson Hibbs, BHA Indiana chapter board member Brian Stone, and Michael Spalding, of the Conservation Law Center, a professional forester from a multi-generation Indiana farming family who has worked in 55 of Indiana’s 92 counties over the course of his career.

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The American pronghorn is North America’s most unique big game animal, a Great Plains living relic from the end of the Ice Age—a creature of speed, agility and beauty that once shared the landscape with the American cheetah, lions, dire wolves, steppe bison. The pronghorn has outlasted them all to become an icon of the wide open spaces and a species honored and beloved (if sometimes cursed in frustration) by anyone who has ever hunted them.

But now, the pronghorn, like the American Great Plains ecosystem, needs our help. Beset by the disruption of migration corridors, the conversion of prairie to farmland, development of every kind, loss of sagebrush steppe to fire and invasive plants, ill-considered fences, and the list of challenges goes on. Each challenge has a solution. Join us for a conversation with hunter-conservationists Erik Dippold of Washington state, and Brock Wahl of North Dakota, and learn about the newly launched American Pronghorn Foundation, a BHA partner-org dedicated to making sure this ancient and noble species thrives in our fast-changing world.  

The U.S. Department of Agriculture is taking public comments on the proposal to rescind the 2001 Roadless Rule, which affects 45 million acres of our national forests. Why is this such a big deal? Why are we throwing this baby out with the bathwater? 

Join Hal and Trout Unlimited President and CEO Chris Wood, who knows this subject inside and out and was working for the U.S. Forest Service in the late 1990s--when the Roadless Rule was created after decades of study, conflict, watershed failures, and the quest for both balance and fiscal responsibility in public lands’ management.

You'll learn why the Roadless Rule is not only essential to conserving the backcountry experiences we cherish but also the fiscally responsible way to manage these intact landscapes. 

And then join BHA in opposition to rescinding the Roadless Rule and ask your member of Congress to instead support the Roadless Area Conservation Act, legislation that would codify the Roadless Rule as law by visiting BHA's Take Action center. Comments are only open until Midnight, September 19th. So don't delay!

BHA’s Podcast and Blast is proud to be sponsored by Silencer Central, the nation’s largest clearinghouse for silencers. Motto: “Silencers Made Simple since 2005.”

This episode features Brandon Maddox of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, who founded Silencer Central 20 years ago from his home. He saw both the growing demand for silencers and the difficulty of navigating federal regulations. Today, Silencer Central handles it all—from expert guidance on the right fit to a step-by-step process (simple enough for even Hal, a self-proclaimed Luddite) that delivers a silencer directly to your door.

Brandon is a long-range precision rifle shooter and an advocate for conservation, public lands and America’s hunting and shooting heritage.

Join us to hear from a businessman and conservationist, and get your questions answered about suppressors—and how they can improve your shooting and make it easier to introduce newcomers to hunting.

And our deepest thanks to Silencer Central for supporting this podcast and all of BHA’s work on behalf of our wild public lands, waters and wildlife.

Join us for a conversation with Carmen Vanbianchi, Research Director and Co-founder of Home Range Wildlife Research, based in Winthrop, Washington, in the Methow Valley. Home Range’s mission is “to advance wildlife conservation by conducting high-quality research, educating aspiring biologists, and engaging local communities.”  Carmen is a field biologist dedicated to the study of lynx and other carnivores, living a life as a tracker, skier, deep observer, and a student of winter weather and tough terrain. Part of her personal mission is to make sure that more people like herself, who love wildlife and wild places, can find their way to careers as field biologists and researchers and help provide the understanding to make sure it all goes on into a challenging and uncertain future.

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The Northeast is the most densely populated part of our country, and is rich in opportunities for hunting, fishing, hiking and camping, due to an extensive network of public lands and the massively successful wildlife restorations and legislation to clean up rivers and reclaim the industrial and mining mishaps of the past.

None of our outdoor pursuits exist here by accident or by luck. The hunting and fishing, the habitat, the access that they depend upon, is the result of work inspired by a passion for making sure that something wonderful can go on and on, in the face of ever increasing challenges.

Join us for a conversation with two BHA guys on the front lines, Lake Champlain’s Brian Bird, rural New York-state native, PhD in geology, hunter, angler, and professional meatcutter, and Chris Borgatti, Eastern Policy and Conservation director, based in coastal Massachusetts on the Great Marsh, teacher, hunter, fisherman, surfer and endurance athlete. Let’s talk brook trout, biodiversity, public lands and state agencies, family, hunting, and making sure that it goes on.

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Kyle Lybarger, a native of Hartselle, Alabama, is a botanist and restoration ecologist and the founder of the Native Habitat Project. He’s also a father, a conservationist, a lifelong whitetail and turkey hunter, sauger and bass fisherman.

Kyle is a man on a mission: to save or restore as much of the South’s native plants, grasslands, savannahs, limestone glades and open woodlands as he possibly can, and to start a movement of motivated Southerners to do the same, anywhere possible and on any scale, from a tiny corner in a suburban front yard or replacing the sterile turf around a new factory, to reintroducing controlled burns to thousands of acres. He’s racing against time, indifference and outright opposition, working tirelessly as a sprawling development boom overwhelms one of the most biodiverse and rare ecosystems in the world, demolishing not only the wildlife and plants but the history of Native peoples and a whole Southern culture built upon a relationship with wildlife, land, and water.

Follow Kyle’s highly informative and brilliant Instagram account: https://www.instagram.com/nativehabitatproject/ and enjoy this interview, recorded at Hal’s homeplace in Alabama, after some adventures identifying rare plants, and a 14 hour day with a controlled burn that got a little, well, over enthusiastic.

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Come with us to Arab, Alabama, to meet Phyllis Light, herbalist, responsible forager, native plant conservation advocate, founder of the Appalachian Center for Natural Health, and author of Southern Folk Medicine: Healing Traditions from the Appalachian Fields and Forests.

Phyliss Light was born on Brindlee Mountain, in this southwest extension of the Appalachian Mountains, into a family with Creek and Cherokee Indian roots. She learned herbalism from her grandmother, and spent long days of her childhood “gleaning” – harvesting wild foods and medicines, fishing and hunting, with her father. “It was a very practical kind of herbalism,” Phyliss explains, “if it didn’t work, we didn’t use it. We didn’t have the money to go to the doctor unless it was something drastic.” As an adult she was an apprentice of the late Tommie Bass, the world-renowned healer known as “the Herb Doctor of Shinbone Ridge.”

Although she has taught herbal medicine across the US, she has lived her whole life, and raised her family, on Brindlee Mountain. “There are over four thousand species of plants in this state,” she says, “and this is the place I know best-I’ve never needed to live anywhere else.”  Her book, Traditional Southern Folk Medicine, combines her unmatched knowledge of native plant medicine with deeply researched history into how this uniquely American healing tradition evolved, and how it has never been more relevant or needed than it is today.     

Chris Jordan has some unwelcome news for the watershed and fisheries restoration movement. Restoring robust populations of salmonids and other fish species in degraded rivers and wetlands is much more complex than we could have ever imagined, and we’ve been doing it wrong for decades. Most of us, even those of us who view our fishing and our rivers as a kind of religion, don’t even know what a truly healthy river looks like.

But Chris also has some welcome news, though, and it’s the subject of today’s podcast: we know how to restore functioning watersheds for coldwater fisheries now, and it’s imminently achievable. Real watershed restoration that can last and bring back healthy cold water fisheries – it’s called “process-based restoration” – is the future. It’s not just about removing archaic dams and putting curves and woody debris back into broken and degraded creeks. It’s about beavers, muck and mire and willow thickets, floodplains and aquifers, wildfire and wetlands, gravity and shade.

It is, as Chris has studied and implemented successfully for the past few decades, about “helping rivers do their jobs with a lighter hand and a larger scope” and recognizing that the messiest natural systems are the very best at producing the strongest and healthiest fisheries. Join us- 100% guaranteed, you’ll see your favorite rivers and creeks in an entirely new light.

The Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring is brought you by Backcountry Hunters & Anglers and presented by Silencer Central, with additional support from Decked, Dometic, and Filson. 

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The news keeps getting worse: over 250 million acres of our public lands potentially up for sale and 3 million or more likely carved out.  While this has been a goal, and a dream, of many radical politicians for the past fifty years, until now it has only been whispered, dog-whistled, lied about, and obscured. Now, their plan is out in the open.

The line is drawn in the sand. The gauntlet has been thrown down. The land grabbers have made their play.

How will we respond? How do we, the Americans who know and love and depend upon these lands, stop this utterly shameless theft of our national assets?

MeatEater Director of Conservation and Backcountry Hunters & Anglers North American Board Chair Ryan Callaghan joins Hal as they discuss what is happening, what’s at stake, and how we – all of us American patriots together -- are going to stop this vandalism and theft of the treasures of our nation. Listen. Learn. Then Take Action.

And Fuel the Fight with our United We Stand for Public Lands campaign

This episode is a special Dual Release with MeatEater for Cal's Week In Review.

The Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring is brought you by Backcountry Hunters & Anglers and presented by Silencer Central, with additional support from Decked, Dometic, and Filson. 

Join Backcountry Hunters & Anglers, the voice for your wild public lands, waters, and wildlife to be part of a passionate community of hunter-angler-conservationists. 

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