This episode treats Verse 2 of Tao te Ching, a verse that seeks to "re-verse" our cultural addictions to binary, this-or-that thinking. In the episode, we learn that this separation of our terms leads to non-curiosity about the amazing diversity of life and energy all around us.

The reference to a history of dualism can be found here: https://iep.utm.edu/dualism-and-mind/#H1

This podcast's central idea is that Tao te Ching is good news for today. Tao still speaks. 

Thanks to Dr. Amelia H. Wheeler for her voice and question. Artwork by Audrey Davis. The song “Put Your Roots Down” is graciously offered by songwriter and singer Molly Hartwell. The copyright for quotations from Tao Te Ching is held by Fortress Press.