In depth conversation with the founders of ChangeBetter.org about their journey starting and how they approach the sector. Sometimes you need to merge with larger organizations to achieve the true mission of your organization. Founder Amanda Ashton and Ellie Zietlin discuss their approach to helping nonprofits discover their impact model and talk through tough questions.

Episode 35

Speaker 1: This is Using the Whole Whale, a podcast that brings you stories of data and technology in the nonprofit world.

My name is George Weiner, your host and the chief whaler of wholewhale.com. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We’ve got a fun short interview today with co-founders of changebetter.org, an organization that works with more smaller start up type of nonprofits thinking about how they have structured their impact and business objectives. The co-founders Ellie Zeitland and Amanda Ashton are former coworkers of mine and we have a fun dialog, because they themselves are also a startup. You kind of hear that as they are talking about the day to day and newly getting into it.  I think it’s fun having these kinds of conversations with newer organizations, because frequently I think I at least run into more established, longer running organizations just have different problems. However, there’s a lot of us out there that are starting things up and thinking about how do we manage day to day keep the lights on with incredible oversized impact goals.

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Speaker 1: I’m here with Ellie and Amanda from changebetter.org. So a little backstory. We spent some time together while I worked as the CTO of dosomething.org. How are you guys doing? Tell us. W