This episode, sees Andy and Keaton talk lockdown haircuts, children's books and how we can all save the world by just changing the way we cook our waffles. Viva la Revolution!

There's also more US/UK chat where this time we look at the similarities that take place during the procurement process and discuss energy-saving opportunities.

It's a jammed packed Waffle podcast so if you're keen to miss the waffle, fast forward to the 24:06 mark where the real energy discussions start.

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