Experimental bagpipe and bass legend Mat Muntz brings his Croatian folk music expertise to the table… a topic most would say he has matsered in depth. Check out his latest album "Phantom Island" on Bandcamp, which freely combines folk music and jazz idioms into a grand polysystemic masterpiece. A lot of our conversation revolves around the intriguing differences between instruments such as bagpipes and double reeds, folk music/other influences, and tuning systems existing together in the same piece. The process of solving microtonal "issues" in an ensemble setting is one we describe as constantly bringing weird findings that cause learning, and joy. Also, keep your ears ready for connections between geography and tuning, and the latest conspiracy about Tartini! Music [Intro] Mat Muntz - Phantom Islands (track 3) Vex Collection - Fugue Beethoven - Ode to Joy (in Istrian scale) Mat Muntz - Cembalo Brutto (track 5) Mat Muntz - Phantom Islands (track 1) Mat Muntz - Cembalo Brutto (track 3) Agustín Castilla Ávila - Gemiden Stephen Weigel - Tenacious Chorale Mat Muntz - Phantom Islands (track 1) Mat Muntz - Phantom Islands (track 4) Mat Muntz - Phantom Islands (track 3) Mat Muntz - Phantom Islands (track 4) Traditional - clip of Croatian women singing [Outro] Mat Muntz - Phantom Islands (track 3) Mat Muntz's music on Bandcamp: https://matmuntz.bandcamp.com/album/phantom-islands https://thevexcollection.bandcamp.com/album/the-vex-collection Support us on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/nowandxen Follow http://nowandxen.libsyn.com https://twitter.com/now_xen https://www.facebook.com/nowxen/ Subscribe RSS: http://nowandxen.libsyn.com/rss iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n… Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1mhnGsH… Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/nowxen Twitter: https://twitter.com/now_xen Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nowxen/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnmYNMpemAIq8DnK5HJ9gsA