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#101 Embracing Indigenous Wisdom: Helen Paul-Smith on ŌKU's Journey with Native Plants and Rongoā Māori


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In this episode, we chat with Helen Paul-Smith, co-founder of ŌKU New Zealand, about the company's path to B Corp certification and how they balance business with their deep commitment to rongoā Māori, sustainability, and ethical sourcing.

Episode Highlights:

  • ŌKU’s Story & Mission – Helen shares how she and her husband, Scott Smith, founded ŌKU to honor the healing power of Aotearoa’s native plants, blending traditional Māori knowledge with modern wellness.

  • Why B Corp? – She dives into why ŌKU pursued B Corp certification, what the process was like, and the key changes they made to meet the rigorous social and environmental standards.

  • Challenges & Lessons Learned – Helen reflects on the challenges of becoming a B Corp, including supply chain transparency, measuring impact, and ensuring ethical business practices.

  • Kaitiakitanga & Sustainability – She explains ŌKU’s commitment to regenerative practices, sourcing native botanicals responsibly, and how their values align with the B Corp movement.

  • The Future of ŌKU as a B Corp – Helen shares what’s next for ŌKU, from expanding their impact-driven initiatives to inspiring other businesses to adopt ethical and sustainable practices.

This episode is a must-listen for business owners, sustainability advocates, and anyone curious about B Corp certification and what it truly means to run a values-driven company.

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