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Ramon and Michelle Perez are exorcists and Pastors for the Throne Of Grace Church. Ramon was a member of the Austin police department for many years and has a background studying anthropology, archeology, quantum physics, and string theory. Michelle was raised in the Church Of Christ faith for many years before deciding to find her own path and has spent her entire life devoted to the study of religion. Together they started Throne Of Grace Church in 2009, and have since been involved in over 100 exorcisms. During our conversation, we discuss their experiences with exorcisms and their thoughts on possession, why it happens, and how it can be helped. 

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