[Note: if you are listening in “video” format, you will discover that at around the 1h20 mark the sound will start cutting in and out. If you listen in “audio only” format — click the headphone icon to the left of the video to switch — you will not encounter these problems.]

Brandon listened to my conversation with Nate Fischer on this subject a while back and had some thoughts he wanted to add to the discussion. We finally managed to connect and have that talk.

In the opening set up for my conversation with Brandon, I had assumed that I had talked with Nate 10 months or a year ago, but it was just December of last year. If you haven’t listened to that episode and want to set the table for my chat with Brandon, you can listen to it here: https://www.seekingthehiddenthing.com/p/26-nate-fischer-can-technology-solve

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