How did Morgan’s upbringing as the daughter of a priest set her off on a path to become Welsh First Minister? What does a former member of the European Parliament think happened with Brexit? How has the devolved parliament tackled the NHS? 

Rory and Alastair are joined by the first minister of Wales, Eluned Morgan, to discuss all this and more.

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