Petra Molnar is a lawyer and anthropologist specializing in migration and human rights.

We discuss her recent book, The Walls Have Eyes Surviving Migration in the Age of Artificial Intelligence.

Topics include the use of technology at borders, surveillance, the role of the private sector, the border industrial complex, Palantir and other companies, whether countries may withdraw from refugee conventions, ankle monitoring, UNHCR camps, the Belarus-Poland border, and more.

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